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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 3357065" data-attributes="member: 2477"><p>If you agree that the data is meaningless without knowing the facts, then why bring it up whenever someone mentions D&D is doing well? You provide innuendo as counter-arguement to D&D doing well. You have nothing direct, so you supply "an indirect intimation about a person or thing, esp. of a disparaging or a derogatory nature."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's no reason to parse it, it was an online discussion about what was meant and what could be infered. If you'd said "I wonder what parts of the strategy they believe had the most impact" it would be different than argueing whether the statement is meaningless and bringing up the Hasbro earnings report innuendo.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Strawman=a weak or sham argument set up to be easily refuted</p><p>No one said the statement was concrete. You entered that into the arguement to refute it, creating your own arguement to win. No one said you were calling folks a liar, you brought it in in order to refute it.</p><p></p><p>Seem like strawmen to me. You bring the subjects into the discussion just to refute them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Saying we accept that they're honest doesn't mean that you don't, it may intimate it on some levels, but it was not the basis for the arguement, but a passing reference that the statement can be accepted as true, IMO. You've carried that battle yourself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Proving a negative?</p><p>I asked why you brought it up. Is it important to the discussion at hand, or not. It's just more innuendo, "these folks got laid off when this was said" intimates that those layoffs counter the statement, which you <em>know</em> is not true, so I asked what you mean in reference to this thread. I'm not asking you to prove anything, just asking "why do you mention it?".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Cool, then we can have a nice logical discussion.</p><p></p><p>I won't guess at motivations, that's silly. I'm not asking to prove anything, just asking "why?". I don't see how personal friendships and a competing business make you immune to stating your personal opinions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 3357065, member: 2477"] If you agree that the data is meaningless without knowing the facts, then why bring it up whenever someone mentions D&D is doing well? You provide innuendo as counter-arguement to D&D doing well. You have nothing direct, so you supply "an indirect intimation about a person or thing, esp. of a disparaging or a derogatory nature." There's no reason to parse it, it was an online discussion about what was meant and what could be infered. If you'd said "I wonder what parts of the strategy they believe had the most impact" it would be different than argueing whether the statement is meaningless and bringing up the Hasbro earnings report innuendo. Strawman=a weak or sham argument set up to be easily refuted No one said the statement was concrete. You entered that into the arguement to refute it, creating your own arguement to win. No one said you were calling folks a liar, you brought it in in order to refute it. Seem like strawmen to me. You bring the subjects into the discussion just to refute them. Saying we accept that they're honest doesn't mean that you don't, it may intimate it on some levels, but it was not the basis for the arguement, but a passing reference that the statement can be accepted as true, IMO. You've carried that battle yourself. Proving a negative? I asked why you brought it up. Is it important to the discussion at hand, or not. It's just more innuendo, "these folks got laid off when this was said" intimates that those layoffs counter the statement, which you [i]know[/i] is not true, so I asked what you mean in reference to this thread. I'm not asking you to prove anything, just asking "why do you mention it?". Cool, then we can have a nice logical discussion. I won't guess at motivations, that's silly. I'm not asking to prove anything, just asking "why?". I don't see how personal friendships and a competing business make you immune to stating your personal opinions. [/QUOTE]
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