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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1392957" data-attributes="member: 9002"><p>I disagree with premise 1.</p><p></p><p>Premise 1 states that since the "standing up" action is not complete, the PC involved is still prone. This is absurd. Standing up is not binary; once seond you are prone, and the next standing up fully. It is, rather, a continuous act. You know. Standing up. Like, when you fall down drunk and then must grab the next beer. Stand up. It's a continuous action, like drinking a potion. You are prone, standing, or in the process of standing. Not either/or. The fact that a readied action "interrupts" something proves the point. If you are still prone, you are not getting up, and nothing is interrupted. You have not started getting up yet. If, however, you have started getting up, and your getting up is interrupted, you are not prone (because you left the prone condition, which in itself cannot be interrupted, to do something, which can be interrupted, i.e. be not-prone).</p><p></p><p>Premise 2 is fine but irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>Premise 3 is true; it's never stated that standing up "effect" can be interrupted (like a potion quaffing can be) by damage. But it's not necessary to do so. Once a person has blown a standard action attempting to get up, and this attempt is interrupted (not with damage, but by a change of condition, i.e. being put prone again that interferes with the completino of the action) that action is finished. </p><p></p><p>Unless you want to allow somebody that is 99% stood up, who got tripped prone again during an AOO, and then pops up again after the tripping? Hey, that's 199% stood up, all for one MOA, pretty cool!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="two, post: 1392957, member: 9002"] I disagree with premise 1. Premise 1 states that since the "standing up" action is not complete, the PC involved is still prone. This is absurd. Standing up is not binary; once seond you are prone, and the next standing up fully. It is, rather, a continuous act. You know. Standing up. Like, when you fall down drunk and then must grab the next beer. Stand up. It's a continuous action, like drinking a potion. You are prone, standing, or in the process of standing. Not either/or. The fact that a readied action "interrupts" something proves the point. If you are still prone, you are not getting up, and nothing is interrupted. You have not started getting up yet. If, however, you have started getting up, and your getting up is interrupted, you are not prone (because you left the prone condition, which in itself cannot be interrupted, to do something, which can be interrupted, i.e. be not-prone). Premise 2 is fine but irrelevant. Premise 3 is true; it's never stated that standing up "effect" can be interrupted (like a potion quaffing can be) by damage. But it's not necessary to do so. Once a person has blown a standard action attempting to get up, and this attempt is interrupted (not with damage, but by a change of condition, i.e. being put prone again that interferes with the completino of the action) that action is finished. Unless you want to allow somebody that is 99% stood up, who got tripped prone again during an AOO, and then pops up again after the tripping? Hey, that's 199% stood up, all for one MOA, pretty cool! [/QUOTE]
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