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<blockquote data-quote="Matthan" data-source="post: 3857077" data-attributes="member: 20005">Well, one of my hopes is that, if something like this isn't already in place, this thread might result in WotC offering intangible bonuses to their books (like a free month of DDI or similar), that would hopefully result in increased sales for them.&nbsp; I honestly wonder whether the ship may have already sailed on the Wizards Presents: books.&nbsp; They may already be at the printer or even in a warehouse.&nbsp; If not though, maybe there is still time to rethink some things and restore the audience's trust.&nbsp; Your post was wonderfully insightful.&nbsp; I do think that you may have hit the nail on the head.&nbsp; The audience for the book feels taken advantage of.&nbsp; That's intriguing and makes me curious how Wizards will respond over the next month or so.I think it is fair to share that, at the moment, I'm not planning on buying the Wizard's Presents: books (though I would if they were offering a beta invite, but I'm bribeable that way).&nbsp; I am curious about them and will most likely pick them up down the line if the reviews are favorable and when the price drops a bit.All that said, if the books were more aimed at what you're talking about. That is, to my understanding, presenting a how to guide to building a 4E campaign utilizing the new ideas being presented (without telling us any crunch),&nbsp; I would jump on it.&nbsp; A book that tells you how to (or gives various ideas how to) structure the world to make the most of the options being presented on a broad scale.&nbsp; And a book that gives you a closer scale, on how to set up an adventuring area that provides for the different classes and races along with ideas for various adventures springing out of the details that they're sharing.&nbsp; That would excite me.&nbsp; If that was included along with designer's notes about where they were coming from and the process to get there, I would part with my cash for them.&nbsp; There was a recent article up on DDI that had one of the designer's sharing how he's building his campaign for 4E by just reading through the races chapter.&nbsp; I would be interested in enough information to start doing that.&nbsp; All that said, I agree with you, but is it wrong of me to want that book along with a free month of DDI or a beta invite?&nbsp; Or am I now not only dreaming, but delusional as well.I think that's fair.&nbsp; Would you consider what Cbas_10 was posting about to be relevant enough for this kind of product?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Matthan, post: 3857077, member: 20005"] Well, one of my hopes is that, if something like this isn't already in place, this thread might result in WotC offering intangible bonuses to their books (like a free month of DDI or similar), that would hopefully result in increased sales for them. I honestly wonder whether the ship may have already sailed on the Wizards Presents: books. They may already be at the printer or even in a warehouse. If not though, maybe there is still time to rethink some things and restore the audience's trust. Your post was wonderfully insightful. I do think that you may have hit the nail on the head. The audience for the book feels taken advantage of. That's intriguing and makes me curious how Wizards will respond over the next month or so. I think it is fair to share that, at the moment, I'm not planning on buying the Wizard's Presents: books (though I would if they were offering a beta invite, but I'm bribeable that way). I am curious about them and will most likely pick them up down the line if the reviews are favorable and when the price drops a bit. All that said, if the books were more aimed at what you're talking about. That is, to my understanding, presenting a how to guide to building a 4E campaign utilizing the new ideas being presented (without telling us any crunch), I would jump on it. A book that tells you how to (or gives various ideas how to) structure the world to make the most of the options being presented on a broad scale. And a book that gives you a closer scale, on how to set up an adventuring area that provides for the different classes and races along with ideas for various adventures springing out of the details that they're sharing. That would excite me. If that was included along with designer's notes about where they were coming from and the process to get there, I would part with my cash for them. There was a recent article up on DDI that had one of the designer's sharing how he's building his campaign for 4E by just reading through the races chapter. I would be interested in enough information to start doing that. All that said, I agree with you, but is it wrong of me to want that book along with a free month of DDI or a beta invite? Or am I now not only dreaming, but delusional as well. I think that's fair. Would you consider what Cbas_10 was posting about to be relevant enough for this kind of product? [/QUOTE]

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