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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 9725271" data-attributes="member: 2067">Some of these are very DIFFERENT effects! I would not use the same system for Disease that I'd use for Energy Drain, for instance. I like 4e's system for diseases, but it is a lot to track and it's not a small lift to "design" a disease in it. I do think that the rolls against disease should happen during a long rest. The diseases in the DMG all have this incubation period that I think kind of messes with the pacing. One of the options not in the poll is "Cannot benefit from rests," which is one of my favorite ways to do diseases since it makes the illness important for the PC's to deal with. It's also a great way to introduce the stakes to the PC's:Party: "OK, to prepare to fight the wererat at full power, we're going to take a long rest."DM: "OK. Lidda, roll a CON save."Lidda's Player: "What?! During a REST?! What the hell? Ummm....oh dang, that's an 8."DM: "You finish your Long Rest, but Lidda, you don't actually benefit from it. You tossed and turned and you woke up feeling awful. Nauseous. Feverish. You've caught an illness. You're now diseased and you can't benefit from rests until you're cured."Lidda's Player: "Hey, um, I'm still down half my hit points, guys. Maaaaybe we deal with this before we fight the wererat?"One thing to note is also that I don't think magic should be able to just heal your disease. For this reason, I like treating Diseased as a separate condition from Poisoned or Exhaustion. A disease might give you all three! And the cleric can cast Lesser Restoration to remove the Poisoned condition, and you can press on, but you're still Diseased, and so you're still not benefitting from rests. This applies to your injuries, too -- you can't heal them by resting, but the cleric can still cast cure wounds on you and give you some staying power. This kind of reflects taking asprin or something: you feel a little better with effort, but you're still sick. Magic can't remove the Diseased condition.</blockquote>

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