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<blockquote data-quote="DarkLord Of DForce" data-source="post: 5040048" data-attributes="member: 85416"><p>I respectfully disagree.</p><p></p><p>The key to Warding Blade is the trigger in the description. The trigger is not when an enemy moves away, moves towards, moves vertically or leaves a square, threatened or otherwise. (however, if it leaves a threatened square, adjacent, then you would of course, get a normal OA - no disagreement there).</p><p></p><p>The trigger is when an enemy moves *into* an adjacent square. Period.</p><p></p><p>I can't see any difference if the enemy is 2 squares away and moves into an adjacent square or an enemy is 10 squares away and moves into an adjacent square. The trigger, according to Warding Blades description, is when it enters the adjacent square.</p><p></p><p>I read moving or entering into an adjacent square as once it breaks the plane, like in football. It doesn't have to completely set down in the square.</p><p></p><p>Once it breaks the plane of the adjacent square, for all intents and purposes it is in the adjacent square, so the trigger from Warding Blade goes off, is resolved, then it would set down in the square. Unless you did have Repulsive armor up, then its reaction would kick it back one square.</p><p></p><p>From CS:</p><p></p><p>Subject</p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>Warding Blades</p><p></p><p>Discussion Thread</p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>Response (Support Agent) - 12/16/2009 02:02 PM</p><p>Hello Ronald,=20</p><p></p><p>Yes, you are correct. Please let me know if you need anymore help!</p><p></p><p><as-html><p>We would appreciate your feedback on the service we are provi=</p><p>ding you. <a href=3D"http://deploy.ztelligence.com/start/index.jsp?PIN=3D=</p><p>15TTLS9M6TYC2"> Please click here to fill out a short questionnaire</a>.<=</p><p>br></p><p><br></p><p>To login to your account, or update your question please <a href=3D"http:=</p><p>//wizards.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wizards.cfg/php/enduser/myovr.php">click h=</p><p>ere</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><br>=20</p><p></p><p>Jamie<br></p><p>Online Response Crew<br></p><p>Wizards of the Coast<br></p><p>1-800-324-6496 (US and Canada)<br></p><p>425-204-8069 (From all other countries)<br></p><p>Monday-Friday 9am-6pm PST / 12pm-9pm EST<br></p><p>Saturday-Sunday 10am-4pm PST / 1pm-7pm EST</p></p><p></as-html></p><p></p><p>Auto-Response - 12/16/2009 01:43 PM</p><p>Your message has NOT been submitted yet.</p><p></p><p>To receive immediate help, please check out the answer(s) listed below. I=</p><p>f there are no answers listed, or the suggested answers do not help you, =</p><p>please click the "Send Email" button below, if available.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Customer (Ronald Hall) - 12/16/2009 01:43 PM</p><p>Hi! Thanks for such a great product (D&D)!</p><p></p><p>My question concerns the Avenger power, Warding Blade.=20</p><p></p><p>Consider this scenario:</p><p></p><p>I have 3 adjacent foes, 1 is my Oath of Enmity target. I use Warding</p><p>Blade - I push enemy A two squares away. I then push enemy B two squares =</p><p>away. I keep my OOE target adjacent to me.</p><p></p><p>Before the end of my next turn, Enemy A moves back into an adjacent=20</p><p>square. I get an Opportunity attack against him, according to the Warding=</p><p> Blade description. Now, Enemy B moves back into an adjacent square (all =</p><p>on the same turn). Warding Blade's description say "any" enemy that moves=</p><p> into an adjacent square, so do I get an Opportunity attack against him a=</p><p>s well?</p><p></p><p>Thanks much! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>[---001:002150:12178---]</p><p></p><p></p><p>They make no mention of "reach" in their reply. </p><p></p><p>Thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkLord Of DForce, post: 5040048, member: 85416"] I respectfully disagree. The key to Warding Blade is the trigger in the description. The trigger is not when an enemy moves away, moves towards, moves vertically or leaves a square, threatened or otherwise. (however, if it leaves a threatened square, adjacent, then you would of course, get a normal OA - no disagreement there). The trigger is when an enemy moves *into* an adjacent square. Period. I can't see any difference if the enemy is 2 squares away and moves into an adjacent square or an enemy is 10 squares away and moves into an adjacent square. The trigger, according to Warding Blades description, is when it enters the adjacent square. I read moving or entering into an adjacent square as once it breaks the plane, like in football. It doesn't have to completely set down in the square. Once it breaks the plane of the adjacent square, for all intents and purposes it is in the adjacent square, so the trigger from Warding Blade goes off, is resolved, then it would set down in the square. Unless you did have Repulsive armor up, then its reaction would kick it back one square. From CS: Subject --------------------------------------------------------------- Warding Blades Discussion Thread --------------------------------------------------------------- Response (Support Agent) - 12/16/2009 02:02 PM Hello Ronald,=20 Yes, you are correct. Please let me know if you need anymore help! <as-html><p>We would appreciate your feedback on the service we are provi= ding you. <a href=3D"http://deploy.ztelligence.com/start/index.jsp?PIN=3D= 15TTLS9M6TYC2"> Please click here to fill out a short questionnaire</a>.<= br> <br> To login to your account, or update your question please <a href=3D"http:= //wizards.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wizards.cfg/php/enduser/myovr.php">click h= ere</a>. <br> <br>=20 Jamie<br> Online Response Crew<br> Wizards of the Coast<br> 1-800-324-6496 (US and Canada)<br> 425-204-8069 (From all other countries)<br> Monday-Friday 9am-6pm PST / 12pm-9pm EST<br> Saturday-Sunday 10am-4pm PST / 1pm-7pm EST</p> </as-html> Auto-Response - 12/16/2009 01:43 PM Your message has NOT been submitted yet. To receive immediate help, please check out the answer(s) listed below. I= f there are no answers listed, or the suggested answers do not help you, = please click the "Send Email" button below, if available. Customer (Ronald Hall) - 12/16/2009 01:43 PM Hi! Thanks for such a great product (D&D)! My question concerns the Avenger power, Warding Blade.=20 Consider this scenario: I have 3 adjacent foes, 1 is my Oath of Enmity target. I use Warding Blade - I push enemy A two squares away. I then push enemy B two squares = away. I keep my OOE target adjacent to me. Before the end of my next turn, Enemy A moves back into an adjacent=20 square. I get an Opportunity attack against him, according to the Warding= Blade description. Now, Enemy B moves back into an adjacent square (all = on the same turn). Warding Blade's description say "any" enemy that moves= into an adjacent square, so do I get an Opportunity attack against him a= s well? Thanks much! :) [---001:002150:12178---] They make no mention of "reach" in their reply. Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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