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<blockquote data-quote="Frostmarrow" data-source="post: 1302858" data-attributes="member: 1122"><p>First of all - this thread will soon be moved to the House Rules Forum. Now that this has been said I can get on with business.</p><p></p><p>Say that your fame score starts out as 1 or something else ridiculously low (for a -5 adjustment). Any time the DM sees fit the Fame score jumps up a notch. It's recommended to keep the Fame score about as high as the character level but that depends on the profile of the character. An outspoken bard is naturally going to have a greater Fame score than for example a seclusive druid.</p><p></p><p>The player can use his Fame to get recognised but he doesn't have to, so the stat is about giving power to the players rather than taking power away. I mean how fun is it to infiltrate a city of orcs only to realise that the first orc guard has been collecting a scrap book on your exploits? When travelling incognito it's a good idea to wear a hood, though. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The DC for being recognised (and respected) depends, but is 15 default. The DM is free to set the DC as well as giving out +2 boni or penalties as usual. If the NPC recognises the character the NPC is aware of the character's alignment and can act accordingly. This means that even a character with a Fame score of 1 will be recognised once in a blue moon - "it's a small world after all".</p><p></p><p>Example: Ragnar the Ranger infiltrates a city of orcs in order to rescue a nymph held prisoner in a tower near the waterfront. The orcs are not hostile to any and all humans but only towards the enemies of the orc state. Ragnar is free to roam the streets as long as he keeps out of situations where he would have to introduce himself (where he would need to rely on his under developed bluff skill). When Ragnar reaches the nymph in the tower she refuses to follow him because she suspects the freeing attempt is just a ruse staged by the orcs. Ragnar decides to reveal himself as a CG champion of the forest. He rolls a Fame check against DC 15 for the nymph to recognise him. If successful the nymph will have heard of Ragnar the Ranger and know that he, at least by reputation, is CG.</p><p></p><p>And surely that is worth a +2 circumstance bonus to social checks. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Ps. For completeness I'd like to add that Arvid the Assassin could just as easily bluff the nymph into believing the he in fact is Ragnar the Ranger... The Fame rules should in no way replace the Bluff, Intimidate or Diplomacy. Ds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frostmarrow, post: 1302858, member: 1122"] First of all - this thread will soon be moved to the House Rules Forum. Now that this has been said I can get on with business. Say that your fame score starts out as 1 or something else ridiculously low (for a -5 adjustment). Any time the DM sees fit the Fame score jumps up a notch. It's recommended to keep the Fame score about as high as the character level but that depends on the profile of the character. An outspoken bard is naturally going to have a greater Fame score than for example a seclusive druid. The player can use his Fame to get recognised but he doesn't have to, so the stat is about giving power to the players rather than taking power away. I mean how fun is it to infiltrate a city of orcs only to realise that the first orc guard has been collecting a scrap book on your exploits? When travelling incognito it's a good idea to wear a hood, though. :) The DC for being recognised (and respected) depends, but is 15 default. The DM is free to set the DC as well as giving out +2 boni or penalties as usual. If the NPC recognises the character the NPC is aware of the character's alignment and can act accordingly. This means that even a character with a Fame score of 1 will be recognised once in a blue moon - "it's a small world after all". Example: Ragnar the Ranger infiltrates a city of orcs in order to rescue a nymph held prisoner in a tower near the waterfront. The orcs are not hostile to any and all humans but only towards the enemies of the orc state. Ragnar is free to roam the streets as long as he keeps out of situations where he would have to introduce himself (where he would need to rely on his under developed bluff skill). When Ragnar reaches the nymph in the tower she refuses to follow him because she suspects the freeing attempt is just a ruse staged by the orcs. Ragnar decides to reveal himself as a CG champion of the forest. He rolls a Fame check against DC 15 for the nymph to recognise him. If successful the nymph will have heard of Ragnar the Ranger and know that he, at least by reputation, is CG. And surely that is worth a +2 circumstance bonus to social checks. :) Ps. For completeness I'd like to add that Arvid the Assassin could just as easily bluff the nymph into believing the he in fact is Ragnar the Ranger... The Fame rules should in no way replace the Bluff, Intimidate or Diplomacy. Ds. [/QUOTE]
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