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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 2219739" data-attributes="member: 12037">By my logic...I believe you should try to understand what I am saying or stop with the straw-men.Two things. First, by RAW, a dragon cannot advance by character class, including sorcerer. Under advancement they are listed as advancing by hit dice, which is to say they advance by creature type: dragon. Secondly, since the advancement is considering only creature type: dragon, we cannot use the rules for creature advacement. Unless it is your oppinion that adding class levels to a monster that normally increases size when hit dice are added makes it increase in size as well.Strange? I have yet to see you offer any proof that you are right. You keep claiming that my interprietation is wrong and for me to defend it, yet you can offer no counter proof to the contrary.EDIT:By your interprietation, you can have a young black dragon with 20 HD, since you can have an adult black dragon with 10 HD. Is this not as strange or stranger than my stance?</blockquote>