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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6694608" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>So to be clear, two people who don't like optimization and character building posts, claim it's working just fine as is.</p><p></p><p>Even though it's not.</p><p></p><p>Even though, as I explained in the first post, if a character build thread gets started in the general forum it gets a LOT more posts in that forum that it does in the optimization forum. Even though when most people hear about the optimization forum elsewhere, their usual response is "I didn't even know EnWorld had such a forum"?</p><p></p><p>It's not working well. You not liking those posts is not a sign the current system is working well. It just means posts you don't like got ditched to the gulag of the board where nobody sees them. Which is great for you personally, but not a good result if the interests is those of the community in general. If those posts get a lot of responses when they're in the general forum, then that means they have some general appeal. The goal should be to have posts with general appeal.</p><p></p><p>I will bet we could experiment with ANY kind of topic, give it a separate forum to post in, and the post count on those kinds of posts will drop very low. In fact, pick five topics SteelDragon or Agamom has responded to lately, find some theme for them, stick them in their own forum, and see what happens to those threads. I think we all know the answer - they will die down to next to zero posts.</p><p></p><p>Remember when "Damage on a Miss" was stuck in it's own forum? You think that had no impact on decreasing the number of such posts? You think that had nothing to do with the reason it was given it's own forum? We all know sticking topics in their own separate forum has a negative impact on the number of posts about that topic. </p><p></p><p>I am not an optimizer, but I like SOME optimization topics. Much like most people like to read those posts sometimes. It used to be a very active part of this forum, and it didn't cause much trouble with that activity (unlike the constant discussion of companies like WOTC and Paizo, which frequently causes trouble but remains a big part of the general forum...even though that forum is specifically supposed to be about rules).</p><p></p><p>I'd be OK with all 5e related topics in one forum. Whatever the solution, the current system doesn't work too well for any kind of topic with it's own forum.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6694608, member: 2525"] So to be clear, two people who don't like optimization and character building posts, claim it's working just fine as is. Even though it's not. Even though, as I explained in the first post, if a character build thread gets started in the general forum it gets a LOT more posts in that forum that it does in the optimization forum. Even though when most people hear about the optimization forum elsewhere, their usual response is "I didn't even know EnWorld had such a forum"? It's not working well. You not liking those posts is not a sign the current system is working well. It just means posts you don't like got ditched to the gulag of the board where nobody sees them. Which is great for you personally, but not a good result if the interests is those of the community in general. If those posts get a lot of responses when they're in the general forum, then that means they have some general appeal. The goal should be to have posts with general appeal. I will bet we could experiment with ANY kind of topic, give it a separate forum to post in, and the post count on those kinds of posts will drop very low. In fact, pick five topics SteelDragon or Agamom has responded to lately, find some theme for them, stick them in their own forum, and see what happens to those threads. I think we all know the answer - they will die down to next to zero posts. Remember when "Damage on a Miss" was stuck in it's own forum? You think that had no impact on decreasing the number of such posts? You think that had nothing to do with the reason it was given it's own forum? We all know sticking topics in their own separate forum has a negative impact on the number of posts about that topic. I am not an optimizer, but I like SOME optimization topics. Much like most people like to read those posts sometimes. It used to be a very active part of this forum, and it didn't cause much trouble with that activity (unlike the constant discussion of companies like WOTC and Paizo, which frequently causes trouble but remains a big part of the general forum...even though that forum is specifically supposed to be about rules). I'd be OK with all 5e related topics in one forum. Whatever the solution, the current system doesn't work too well for any kind of topic with it's own forum. [/QUOTE]
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