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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6697788" data-attributes="member: 2525">Totally calm.&nbsp; Just representing my view as best I can.&nbsp; Didn't mean to imply a tone of excitement or aggression.&nbsp; Again, no aggression intended.&nbsp; Two guys who don't like X said system Y is working great because it doesn't favor X.&nbsp; I just pointed out that math and the flaw with it in case it was not apparent, and suggested a thought experiment which might help make it more apparent.&nbsp; It was not meant to be personal to the two guys who said it or about them (in fact I happen to like the posts of both those guys in general).It's just the only place I've seen it come up.&nbsp; Hard to bring it up here - not sure what sort of thread would be allowed in the general forum to talk about that topic without getting moved out of the general forum to a less read one - like the very optimization forum we're talking about, or this one.&nbsp; So it's a data point - not a strong one, but perhaps the strongest one possible given the nature of the topic.Sure, and thanks for that link. I do think putting all of OSR, 3e, 4e, and Pathfinder in there might muck it up a bit.&nbsp; While there are people who like to read stuff about all versions of the game, usually people have a game of preference.&nbsp; Which is why I was advocating for an all-5e forum, where house rules about 5e and character builds about 5e are also permitted.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6697788, member: 2525"] Totally calm. Just representing my view as best I can. Didn't mean to imply a tone of excitement or aggression. Again, no aggression intended. Two guys who don't like X said system Y is working great because it doesn't favor X. I just pointed out that math and the flaw with it in case it was not apparent, and suggested a thought experiment which might help make it more apparent. It was not meant to be personal to the two guys who said it or about them (in fact I happen to like the posts of both those guys in general). It's just the only place I've seen it come up. Hard to bring it up here - not sure what sort of thread would be allowed in the general forum to talk about that topic without getting moved out of the general forum to a less read one - like the very optimization forum we're talking about, or this one. So it's a data point - not a strong one, but perhaps the strongest one possible given the nature of the topic. Sure, and thanks for that link. I do think putting all of OSR, 3e, 4e, and Pathfinder in there might muck it up a bit. While there are people who like to read stuff about all versions of the game, usually people have a game of preference. Which is why I was advocating for an all-5e forum, where house rules about 5e and character builds about 5e are also permitted. [/QUOTE]

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