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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6710124" data-attributes="member: 92511">Hyperbolic nonsense. Telling you I don't agree with your view and see things differently, however sincere your view might be, is not &quot;calling you a liar.&quot; Disagreeing with your position is not a &quot;personal attack.&quot; Nice try though.And even IF I were calling you a liar outright, I still don't think that would make me so offended and threatened by someone's opposing view, that I would resort to telling someone, &quot;Go be a dick to someone else.&quot; That seems, to me, a disproportionate response.This conversation most certainly is/can be over. I'm only here because I saw the title of this thread and thought I should take a look at what was going on...since &quot;Move the Optimization Section back into the General 5e Section&quot; is something I REALLY don't want to see... and, it would seem, the bulk of those responding here, on your poll thread (however limited and unusable it might be), and in the 5e discussion &quot;Charop Threads: Something I Wish hadn't come over&quot; thread [which I had NO hand in! Completely independently arose.] are all saying the same/agreeing with me. I won't apologize for having more support for my position.Sometimes ideas are good. Sometimes ideas are not. Sometimes, they might be good and still not come to pass, for any variety of reasons. Sometimes they're lousy and still happen in the face of massive opposition. This one was ill-advised. C'est la vie.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6710124, member: 92511"] Hyperbolic nonsense. Telling you I don't agree with your view and see things differently, however sincere your view might be, is not "calling you a liar." Disagreeing with your position is not a "personal attack." Nice try though. And even IF I were calling you a liar outright, I still don't think that would make me so offended and threatened by someone's opposing view, that I would resort to telling someone, "Go be a dick to someone else." That seems, to me, a disproportionate response. This conversation most certainly is/can be over. I'm only here because I saw the title of this thread and thought I should take a look at what was going on...since "Move the Optimization Section back into the General 5e Section" is something I REALLY don't want to see... and, it would seem, the bulk of those responding here, on your poll thread (however limited and unusable it might be), and in the 5e discussion "Charop Threads: Something I Wish hadn't come over" thread [which I had NO hand in! Completely independently arose.] are all saying the same/agreeing with me. I won't apologize for having more support for my position. Sometimes ideas are good. Sometimes ideas are not. Sometimes, they might be good and still not come to pass, for any variety of reasons. Sometimes they're lousy and still happen in the face of massive opposition. This one was ill-advised. C'est la vie. [/QUOTE]

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