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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 2260250" data-attributes="member: 545"><p>If you really really like skills, I would definitely throw in a level of Ranger or Rogue.</p><p></p><p>What you actually <em>need</em> to be a highly effective Paladin at 12th level is:</p><p>Diplomacy: 15 ranks</p><p>Sense Motive: 15 ranks</p><p>Knowledge Nobility: 5 ranks</p><p>Knowledge Planes: 5 ranks (as cross class)</p><p>Ride: 5 ranks</p><p></p><p>That is it. Handle Animal and more ranks of Ride are unnecessary luxuries because you special mount can simply be asked to do whatever is necessary as a Free Action.</p><p></p><p>With a 12 Int and Human bonus, that still leaves a respectable 10 ranks for other skills. If you really want more than that, a desire I perfectly understand, you might consider other class combos.</p><p></p><p>Just to throw another option into the mix, for a very powerful mount and a lot of skills you could go something like Ranger4/Beastmaster1/Paladin7 and get Devoted Tracker from CV. This really eats up your feats because you need Skill Focus: Handle Animal. You might even pick up the Natural Bond feat for a Super Special Animal Companion Mount -- effective Druid level of 9 and Paladin level 7. That is +8HD, +10 Natural Armor +4 Str, +3 Dex and other abilities. A bit less if you want a Hippogriff or something. It is an interesting combo (though you might have to ask your DM about multiclassing issues).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 2260250, member: 545"] If you really really like skills, I would definitely throw in a level of Ranger or Rogue. What you actually [i]need[/i] to be a highly effective Paladin at 12th level is: Diplomacy: 15 ranks Sense Motive: 15 ranks Knowledge Nobility: 5 ranks Knowledge Planes: 5 ranks (as cross class) Ride: 5 ranks That is it. Handle Animal and more ranks of Ride are unnecessary luxuries because you special mount can simply be asked to do whatever is necessary as a Free Action. With a 12 Int and Human bonus, that still leaves a respectable 10 ranks for other skills. If you really want more than that, a desire I perfectly understand, you might consider other class combos. Just to throw another option into the mix, for a very powerful mount and a lot of skills you could go something like Ranger4/Beastmaster1/Paladin7 and get Devoted Tracker from CV. This really eats up your feats because you need Skill Focus: Handle Animal. You might even pick up the Natural Bond feat for a Super Special Animal Companion Mount -- effective Druid level of 9 and Paladin level 7. That is +8HD, +10 Natural Armor +4 Str, +3 Dex and other abilities. A bit less if you want a Hippogriff or something. It is an interesting combo (though you might have to ask your DM about multiclassing issues). [/QUOTE]
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