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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 7635138" data-attributes="member: 6802951">No, but there is definitely some confusion in the context that you were using it, and you opinion as to what the D&amp;D mechanical implementation represents.I think that is why Blue was pointing out the mechanical difference in D&amp;D between being proficient in something and being good at it. - To try to resolve the&nbsp; confusion and work out in what context you were using the word.&nbsp;No, unless there is confusion about what a wizard actually is. They use rote spells involving specific verbal incantations, gestures etc to create effects. That sounds more like a technician to me. The only part of the wizard class that would appear to show specific knowledge is the ability to come up with new spells every level. Given that spells are only one part of what Arcana covers, this does not seem conclusive that all wizards are trained in Arcana, rather than other options.The arcana experts? The &quot;math professors&quot;? That sounds to me more like a sage rogue with expertise in Arcana. - All that time the wizards were practicing the exact intonations etc required to cast spells, the sage was learning more about planar geography, dragons etc. He knows the theory behind how spells work, but lacks the practical training to actually cast them.&nbsp;No inherent class feature of the wizard keys off Arcana proficiency as far as I'm aware. There also seems to be a little confusion around a D&amp;D wizard vs one specific stereotype of the D&amp;D wizard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 7635138, member: 6802951"] No, but there is definitely some confusion in the context that you were using it, and you opinion as to what the D&D mechanical implementation represents. I think that is why Blue was pointing out the mechanical difference in D&D between being proficient in something and being good at it. - To try to resolve the confusion and work out in what context you were using the word. No, unless there is confusion about what a wizard actually is. They use rote spells involving specific verbal incantations, gestures etc to create effects. That sounds more like a technician to me. The only part of the wizard class that would appear to show specific knowledge is the ability to come up with new spells every level. Given that spells are only one part of what Arcana covers, this does not seem conclusive that all wizards are trained in Arcana, rather than other options. The arcana experts? The "math professors"? That sounds to me more like a sage rogue with expertise in Arcana. - All that time the wizards were practicing the exact intonations etc required to cast spells, the sage was learning more about planar geography, dragons etc. He knows the theory behind how spells work, but lacks the practical training to actually cast them. No inherent class feature of the wizard keys off Arcana proficiency as far as I'm aware. There also seems to be a little confusion around a D&D wizard vs one specific stereotype of the D&D wizard. [/QUOTE]

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