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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7635174" data-attributes="member: 20564">No, &quot;we&quot; are explicitly not trying to discuss the math professor.&nbsp; Some posters are trying to shrink the argument to just that.What we are talking about all charactgers who take the wizard class, since that's what a change to the class would affect.&nbsp; The studious professor of magic (who has proficiency in Arcana) is one but also the young wizard who's self-taught and is still figuring it out (don't have arcana yet), the wind-wizard sailor who has had the tradition passed down to them because they were the bright cabin boy who could understand the words and gestures but it's actually against character for them to have a wide and deep knowledge of other magic, runes, and everything else that's in the Arcana skill.&nbsp; And many more.&nbsp; The conversation is not about just the bookish wizard, it's about all the archetypes.&nbsp; And many of them either need not, or should not have the Arcana skill.Please, stop trying to pretend that there is only one type of wizard.&nbsp; There are a wide variety of concepts that can take the wizard class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7635174, member: 20564"] No, "we" are explicitly not trying to discuss the math professor. Some posters are trying to shrink the argument to just that. What we are talking about [B]all[/B] charactgers who take the wizard class, since that's what a change to the class would affect. The studious professor of magic (who has proficiency in Arcana) is one but also the young wizard who's self-taught and is still figuring it out (don't have arcana yet), the wind-wizard sailor who has had the tradition passed down to them because they were the bright cabin boy who could understand the words and gestures but it's actually against character for them to have a wide and deep knowledge of other magic, runes, and everything else that's in the Arcana skill. And many more. The conversation is not about just the bookish wizard, it's about all the archetypes. And many of them either need not, or should not have the Arcana skill. Please, stop trying to pretend that there is only one type of wizard. There are a wide variety of concepts that can take the wizard class. [/QUOTE]

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