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Message: <blockquote data-quote="azmodean" data-source="post: 1974712" data-attributes="member: 26590">I was looking at starting an artificer character who will eventually build golems, and I ran across this when I was figuring out how soon he would be able to start on golems:This seems to indicate that he must either be lvl 13 (so he can cast limited wish) or he must expend 20 scrolls of limited wish (3,775 gp each)or 20 charges from a wand of limited wish(never mind, wands cannot cast limited wish).  Also the same situation exists with geas/quest, which is a lvl 6 spell.Is this correct?  Does an artificer have to be lvl 12 to create the weakest of golems?  (the scrolls would just be too expensive, about 75,000 gp.  Then there are still the scrolls of geas/quest.)P.S.  I ran into the thread posting glitch the first time I tried to post.</blockquote>