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<blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 3697230" data-attributes="member: 1003">Ditto and ditto. Especially for maps that don't go in straight lines.&nbsp; Can you imagine trying to make an accurate map of the Caves of Chaos based on someone describing it to you? I'd tear my hair out. I'd also be very tempted to kill any GM who said &quot;Ha ha! That map you've been drawing for the last two hours is all wrong. You were under the effect of a Maze spell.&quot;Being required to map would be doubly aggravating since I know that I (personally, not necessarily a given PC) would never get lost in such a setting. As an Eagle Scout of no particular skill, I'd rate my own ranks in Survival (that's always a fun game, isn't it?) around +2 or +3, and that's more than sufficient to never get lost in a setting where every tree and rocky outcropping is subtly different from every other. It's just a question of paying attention.I quoted the section about &quot;line mapping&quot; because that actually can be useful. In fact, in a cave system / dungeon regular maps are pretty stupid, since it's not like going overland when you can be off by 15 degrees for a 1/4 mile - in a cave you can only go forwards or back, left or right.&nbsp; Two circles (one for the orc den, the other for the goblin menance) connected by a line that says &quot;Tunnel, usually 20' wide, narrows to 3-5' at marked points; 1/2 mile&quot; is more than sufficient.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Irda Ranger, post: 3697230, member: 1003"] Ditto and ditto. [B]Especially[/B] for maps that don't go in straight lines. Can you imagine trying to make an accurate map of the Caves of Chaos based on someone describing it to you? I'd tear my hair out. I'd also be very tempted to kill any GM who said "Ha ha! That map you've been drawing for the last two hours is all wrong. You were under the effect of a [I]Maze[/I] spell." Being required to map would be doubly aggravating since I know that I (personally, not necessarily a given PC) would never get lost in such a setting. As an Eagle Scout of no particular skill, I'd rate my own ranks in Survival (that's always a fun game, isn't it?) around +2 or +3, and that's more than sufficient to never get lost in a setting where every tree and rocky outcropping is subtly different from every other. It's just a question of paying attention. I quoted the section about "line mapping" because that actually can be useful. In fact, in a cave system / dungeon regular maps are pretty stupid, since it's not like going overland when you can be off by 15 degrees for a 1/4 mile - in a cave you can only go forwards or back, left or right. Two circles (one for the orc den, the other for the goblin menance) connected by a line that says "Tunnel, usually 20' wide, narrows to 3-5' at marked points; 1/2 mile" is more than sufficient. [/QUOTE]

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