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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1870829" data-attributes="member: 1465">What libraries are you talking about? I was having in mind a generic fantasy settings... clearly nothing impies the library must be small or unorganized, but what filing system (even in a RL library) requires such extensive training to make it a skill? I've been using quite a number of libraries and I never needed any specific abilities beforehand, but if you know the subject you know where to look for more information.For example, if one has to search for let's say some historical information about the battle of Pearl Harbour, doesn't know to look in WWII books and has to search through all the books available from prehistory to last year, it makes sense he has a smaller chance to find the info in the given time.The topic of libraries is always controversial, because to find the answer (in theory) depends both an (1) the chance that the library HAS the answer at all and (2) the chance that you find the answer.It's not easy to do this with a 3ed skill, for instance if you DO have the answer in the library it's only a possible matter of time for anyone to find it, so the DC doesn't make sense anymore if someone cannot find the answer; the only skill that would work with variable times is Craft, so perhaps another possibility would be to follow the rules for crafting an item to find out how long it takes instead to find the info.</blockquote>