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<blockquote data-quote="SamuraiY" data-source="post: 702859" data-attributes="member: 10415"><p>Ok how about this as the rules for it (plus a related feat)</p><p></p><p> A wizard can learn a spell from a magical item, similar to the way he can learn a new spell from a scroll. He can learn a spell from any type of magical item with the obvious exception of minor and major artifacts.</p><p>There are two steps to reverse engineering. First you must decipher the spell in the item with a spell craft DC depending on the type of magic item you are studying. You may retry this check, just as you can with scrolls. Studying requires one day for every 1,000 gp in the item’s market price. If you have the necessary feat to create the item you gain a +2 to your spellcraft check. If there is more than one spell in the item, you decipher the highest level one you made the check for. An analyze dweomer allows you to identify all the spells in the item without a check, and an identify spell allows you to decipher the lowest level spell in the item without a check. Once you have deciphered the spell in this manner you may copy it into your spellbook as normal. Whether or not the item is affected depends on the type of item: if the item does not have a limit to the number of times it can be used, it is not harmed; if it has a limited number of uses, one use is depleted. If your check to copy the spell fails, then the item is not affected no matter what type it is.</p><p></p><p>Item--------------DC + Spell Level</p><p></p><p>Armor-------------25</p><p>Weapon----------25</p><p>Potion-------------20</p><p>Ring---------------20</p><p>Rod----------------25</p><p>Staff---------------20</p><p>Wand-------------20</p><p>Wondrous Item-20</p><p></p><p></p><p>Improved Reverse Engineering</p><p>You are especially adept at deciphering spells from magical items</p><p>Prerequisites: Any Item creation Feat, Spell Mastery</p><p>Benefit: All Reverse Engineering decipher DCs are 20 + Spell level</p><p>Normal: The DC depends on the type of item you are attempting to decipher.</p><p>Special: This feat can be taken as a wizard bonus feat.</p><p></p><p>I think this feat might be a little weak. thoughts/improvements would be very welcome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SamuraiY, post: 702859, member: 10415"] Ok how about this as the rules for it (plus a related feat) A wizard can learn a spell from a magical item, similar to the way he can learn a new spell from a scroll. He can learn a spell from any type of magical item with the obvious exception of minor and major artifacts. There are two steps to reverse engineering. First you must decipher the spell in the item with a spell craft DC depending on the type of magic item you are studying. You may retry this check, just as you can with scrolls. Studying requires one day for every 1,000 gp in the item’s market price. If you have the necessary feat to create the item you gain a +2 to your spellcraft check. If there is more than one spell in the item, you decipher the highest level one you made the check for. An analyze dweomer allows you to identify all the spells in the item without a check, and an identify spell allows you to decipher the lowest level spell in the item without a check. Once you have deciphered the spell in this manner you may copy it into your spellbook as normal. Whether or not the item is affected depends on the type of item: if the item does not have a limit to the number of times it can be used, it is not harmed; if it has a limited number of uses, one use is depleted. If your check to copy the spell fails, then the item is not affected no matter what type it is. Item--------------DC + Spell Level Armor-------------25 Weapon----------25 Potion-------------20 Ring---------------20 Rod----------------25 Staff---------------20 Wand-------------20 Wondrous Item-20 Improved Reverse Engineering You are especially adept at deciphering spells from magical items Prerequisites: Any Item creation Feat, Spell Mastery Benefit: All Reverse Engineering decipher DCs are 20 + Spell level Normal: The DC depends on the type of item you are attempting to decipher. Special: This feat can be taken as a wizard bonus feat. I think this feat might be a little weak. thoughts/improvements would be very welcome. [/QUOTE]
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