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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 7757006" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>For Romans, at least, honor and duty mattered, not just results. They were a lawful and traditional society. And I grant you, Greeks cared more about the results only, but even they weren't a machiavellian ends-justify-all-means paradise, there were consequences for going too far, things were find and dandy for Bellerophon, he could slay chimeras and murder Amazons all he wanted, but mount Olympus was off-limits. The same with all Greek heroes, Odysseus had pay for his extreme deceit and hubris by getting lost ten years and dying in the Arctic. Agamemnon paid with his life sacrificing his daughter to the gods. Jason had his kids and new bride killed after he betrayed Medea. And let´s not get into all of the parricide, incest and violation of sacred hospitality...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 7757006, member: 6689464"] For Romans, at least, honor and duty mattered, not just results. They were a lawful and traditional society. And I grant you, Greeks cared more about the results only, but even they weren't a machiavellian ends-justify-all-means paradise, there were consequences for going too far, things were find and dandy for Bellerophon, he could slay chimeras and murder Amazons all he wanted, but mount Olympus was off-limits. The same with all Greek heroes, Odysseus had pay for his extreme deceit and hubris by getting lost ten years and dying in the Arctic. Agamemnon paid with his life sacrificing his daughter to the gods. Jason had his kids and new bride killed after he betrayed Medea. And let´s not get into all of the parricide, incest and violation of sacred hospitality... [/QUOTE]
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