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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bento" data-source="post: 4069784" data-attributes="member: 36597">Have you talked about what your players really want from the game?  Group #1 Have everything go their way. Always get the coolest items. Fight foes that they have a decent chance against.ORGroup #2 Lose often. Denied obtaining their desires. Rarely have the opportunity to use their feats.It sounds like from you're description they want group #1 and you want group #2.  You need to compromise.  I've come to the conclusion that I give my players what they want EXCEPT when it ruins the balance for the other players (and not me).  I can always find bigger and better foes that they can cleave through, fireball and do other cool things to.  But when one player far out-distances another player's (or several player's) abilities, its time to scale them back.  Everyone has picked a role in the party, and its your job to make them shine during the game.</blockquote>