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Respect Mah Authoritah: Thoughts on DM and Player Authority in 5e
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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8428046" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>Who's bowing down to these hypothetical chest thumping gorilla DMs? When I sit down to play D&D, I acknowledge that as part of the social structure and expectations of the game the DM has the final call on how the rules work. If I disagree I may or may not mention it briefly during the game. If I care enough I'll discuss it after the game. If the DM isn't working for me as a player I'll find a different game and disinvite myself from the next session.</p><p></p><p>If someone wants an explanation of why, in my levitation example*, the DM just shrugs and says "Yeah, the wizard levitates the horse and rider", it's not the end of the world. It's not, in and of itself, the sign of a domineering dictator. Maybe it's a house rule that applies to NPCs and PCs alike that they forgot to mention or has never come up. Maybe the DM is railroading the group and this is just one blatant example. Maybe they're just more concerned about the narrative and making the game fun for everyone at the table than being a rules lawyer. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p><p></p><p>What I won't do is judge this incident out of context or say that the DM is demanding that we be obsequious pleeb bowing down to their authority. I'll just disagree and move on. There are bad DMs out there, but I've never witnessed the power-hungry DM in real life. It doesn't seem like they'd maintain a group long enough to matter. I do have to question if the problem could be the player not the power hungry DM. [edit: in some cases, anyway. Or just a mismatch of expectations.] <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" data-smilie="24"data-shortname=":unsure:" /></p><p></p><p><em>*Kind of a dumb example, but while this stuff does come up once in a blue moon it's so rare I can't think of a real world example. Oh, and for sake of argument assume that as a player I know it's just a levitate spell.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8428046, member: 6801845"] Who's bowing down to these hypothetical chest thumping gorilla DMs? When I sit down to play D&D, I acknowledge that as part of the social structure and expectations of the game the DM has the final call on how the rules work. If I disagree I may or may not mention it briefly during the game. If I care enough I'll discuss it after the game. If the DM isn't working for me as a player I'll find a different game and disinvite myself from the next session. If someone wants an explanation of why, in my levitation example*, the DM just shrugs and says "Yeah, the wizard levitates the horse and rider", it's not the end of the world. It's not, in and of itself, the sign of a domineering dictator. Maybe it's a house rule that applies to NPCs and PCs alike that they forgot to mention or has never come up. Maybe the DM is railroading the group and this is just one blatant example. Maybe they're just more concerned about the narrative and making the game fun for everyone at the table than being a rules lawyer. 🤷♂️ What I won't do is judge this incident out of context or say that the DM is demanding that we be obsequious pleeb bowing down to their authority. I'll just disagree and move on. There are bad DMs out there, but I've never witnessed the power-hungry DM in real life. It doesn't seem like they'd maintain a group long enough to matter. I do have to question if the problem could be the player not the power hungry DM. [edit: in some cases, anyway. Or just a mismatch of expectations.] :unsure: [I]*Kind of a dumb example, but while this stuff does come up once in a blue moon it's so rare I can't think of a real world example. Oh, and for sake of argument assume that as a player I know it's just a levitate spell.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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