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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8428718" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>I am not going to go through this point by point. Just going to state what I hope is now obvious to you; for whatever reason, your way of engaging in discussion on the internet (in terms of engaging with <em>me</em>) doesn't work for me. I could explain why this is a truly strange response to me, point by point here, but why bother? I've tried before.</p><p></p><p>Look, just take the one thing I'm responding to. Try and think about this for a second. Do you think I am <em>actually saying that no one in the history of ever has never read the DMG</em>? I mean, that wouldn't make much sense, would it? Obviously, someone has- I did, because I'm quoting it!</p><p></p><p>So maybe there's something else going on? Maybe it's not really a great retort to say, in effect, "You're wrong! I read the DMG!" Perhaps it is, in fact, a joking refrain because it's a "thing" on ENWorld that people can have long conversations and not be aware of provisions in the DMG?</p><p></p><p>You could search for it, but here's a post from over a year ago, from me-</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-this-a-fair-review-of-pf2.673869/post-8061515[/URL]</p><p></p><p><em>Ha!</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>No one reads the DMG.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>This is such a well-known fact that I regularly make up stuff, and no one calls me on it, because no one reads it.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>That was already covered on p. 234 of the DMG in the section called "Improvised Snot Projectiles." The specific text refers to "the ability to hit the opponent with a gooey projectile where they are; conversely, if they aren't there, there s'not the ability to hit the opponent."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Game.</em></p><p><em>Set.</em></p><p><em>Match.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Illiteracy, as always, triumphs.</em></p><p></p><p>But there's a ton of references to it- and not just by me. So yeah, in a desire to argue with the post, you're not trying to understand it. Not even seeing what amounts to joking refrains (or the point of them). Look- I get it. You're not responsible for understanding every single reference or joke or allusion that I include.... but even a soupçon of common sense (as opposed to an augmentative stance) would have informed your reading of what I am writing. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, to the extent you want to engage in productive conversations in the future with me, I welcome it, even when you disagree. Or just want to argue with other people in these threads I start. That's cool- I hope people get productive discussions out of these posts, because that's why I write them. I don't pretend to have "the answers," only to provoke some conversations about the topic. That's why I usually don't participate that much in the threads I start. But ... this, what you're doing, isn't working for me. Clear disconnect. </p><p></p><p>Different styles, and all that. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8428718, member: 7023840"] I am not going to go through this point by point. Just going to state what I hope is now obvious to you; for whatever reason, your way of engaging in discussion on the internet (in terms of engaging with [I]me[/I]) doesn't work for me. I could explain why this is a truly strange response to me, point by point here, but why bother? I've tried before. Look, just take the one thing I'm responding to. Try and think about this for a second. Do you think I am [I]actually saying that no one in the history of ever has never read the DMG[/I]? I mean, that wouldn't make much sense, would it? Obviously, someone has- I did, because I'm quoting it! So maybe there's something else going on? Maybe it's not really a great retort to say, in effect, "You're wrong! I read the DMG!" Perhaps it is, in fact, a joking refrain because it's a "thing" on ENWorld that people can have long conversations and not be aware of provisions in the DMG? You could search for it, but here's a post from over a year ago, from me- [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/is-this-a-fair-review-of-pf2.673869/post-8061515[/URL] [I]Ha! No one reads the DMG. This is such a well-known fact that I regularly make up stuff, and no one calls me on it, because no one reads it. That was already covered on p. 234 of the DMG in the section called "Improvised Snot Projectiles." The specific text refers to "the ability to hit the opponent with a gooey projectile where they are; conversely, if they aren't there, there s'not the ability to hit the opponent." Game. Set. Match. Illiteracy, as always, triumphs.[/I] But there's a ton of references to it- and not just by me. So yeah, in a desire to argue with the post, you're not trying to understand it. Not even seeing what amounts to joking refrains (or the point of them). Look- I get it. You're not responsible for understanding every single reference or joke or allusion that I include.... but even a soupçon of common sense (as opposed to an augmentative stance) would have informed your reading of what I am writing. Anyway, to the extent you want to engage in productive conversations in the future with me, I welcome it, even when you disagree. Or just want to argue with other people in these threads I start. That's cool- I hope people get productive discussions out of these posts, because that's why I write them. I don't pretend to have "the answers," only to provoke some conversations about the topic. That's why I usually don't participate that much in the threads I start. But ... this, what you're doing, isn't working for me. Clear disconnect.[B] [/B] Different styles, and all that. :) [/QUOTE]
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