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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8434382" data-attributes="member: 6795602">IMO, 'win con' or 'win condition' is not a very good term for this discussion as it has a different connotation than 'winning a game'.I think the starting point is that the rules define what is required to win.The difference between a game and a goal1.  A game has all participants on the same page about what is required to win2.  A goal doesn't require opponents or even other teammates on the same pageThis is why it's easy for a player of an individual game to modify the game into a new game with a few self imposed rules/limitations.  Game is an overloaded term1.  It refers to the abstract game rules2.  It refers to a particular match of the teams using those rules to play the game in question.This is why discussion gets a little confusing at timesA season is not a game1.  There is no rule that defines what is required to win a season.2.  However, there can be goals for seasons.  Getting to the playoffs, winning the playoffs, showing substantial improvement, etc.Playoffs are a game1.  There are rules that define exactly what it takes to win the playoffs (fairly simple rules for most sports, win each game/match and continue to advance until all other competitors have been eliminated.Winning your conference in a particular season is a game.1.  There are rules that define exactly what it takes to win your conference</blockquote>