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Message: <blockquote data-quote="prabe" data-source="post: 8434757" data-attributes="member: 7016699">Sure. Leaving aside that I haven't played most of these games ...No, and no.No, no, and no.No.(leaving aside that the Xenomorph is going to rip everyone apart as they descend into a deathspiral of panic)Nope. None of them.No and no.Nope. Not even a little.What all of these bear more resemblance to than winning or losing anything is finishing something. Satisfying a completion urge. They are--each and everyone--more like finishing a story (or maybe a chapter) as a reader or as a writer, than like winning (or plausibly  losing--some of the end states are ambiguous and I could see being seen either way).Finishing a story has never, ever felt like winning to me. Never as a reader, and not as a writer. Finishing a song in the MIDI space (or getting one all the way together as part of a band, back when the rocks were still cooling) never felt like winning.Now, clearly, my point of view on this is ... probably deeply alien to you, and to some of the other posters still bothering with this thread. I'm ... fine with that.</blockquote>