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<blockquote data-quote="Xetheral" data-source="post: 8439923" data-attributes="member: 6802765"><p>That isn't at all what I think or what I am doing or saying.</p><p></p><p>To clarify, I am inquiring as to the utility of the category "Backstory first" and whether it is axiomatic (as [USER=7030755]@Malmuria[/USER] suggested) or describes differences in play experiences (as [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] claims). I agree that it at least describes differences between Story Now and not Story Now, but alone that isn't enough to show that the category isn't axiomatic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The framing of my question to pemerton without mentioning the broader context of the Forge was purposeful. I'm trying to discuss the approach to categorization in question on its own merits without dragging in the attendant controversy. Accordingly, please do not treat my silence regarding the broader context as ignorance.</p><p></p><p>I do apologize, however, that by trying to keep the conversation about the ideas themselves I was necessarily unable to acknowledge the time and effort spent developing them. I do so now.</p><p></p><p>Respecting the effort behind the analytical work, however, does not require one to agree with the ultimate conclusions of that analysis. My questioning the ultimate utility and limitations of a particular categorization is therefore necessarily reasonable, without regard to the degree of effort involved in developing that categorization.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I thought I had avoided making any value judgements of any kind in my post, and I thus am alarmed that I nevertheless came across as doing so. Please accept my assurance that I am indeed only trying to discuss the utility of the "Backstory first" categorization and that any intimations about the functioning or worth of any specific games or playstyles are entirely unintended.</p><p></p><p>Indeed, rereading our exchange I am completely at a loss as to how I might have come across the way you evidently read my posts. Do you have any suggestions for how I might have been more clear that I am discussing the "Backstory first" categorization and not the worth of specific games or playstyles?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xetheral, post: 8439923, member: 6802765"] That isn't at all what I think or what I am doing or saying. To clarify, I am inquiring as to the utility of the category "Backstory first" and whether it is axiomatic (as [USER=7030755]@Malmuria[/USER] suggested) or describes differences in play experiences (as [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] claims). I agree that it at least describes differences between Story Now and not Story Now, but alone that isn't enough to show that the category isn't axiomatic. The framing of my question to pemerton without mentioning the broader context of the Forge was purposeful. I'm trying to discuss the approach to categorization in question on its own merits without dragging in the attendant controversy. Accordingly, please do not treat my silence regarding the broader context as ignorance. I do apologize, however, that by trying to keep the conversation about the ideas themselves I was necessarily unable to acknowledge the time and effort spent developing them. I do so now. Respecting the effort behind the analytical work, however, does not require one to agree with the ultimate conclusions of that analysis. My questioning the ultimate utility and limitations of a particular categorization is therefore necessarily reasonable, without regard to the degree of effort involved in developing that categorization. I thought I had avoided making any value judgements of any kind in my post, and I thus am alarmed that I nevertheless came across as doing so. Please accept my assurance that I am indeed only trying to discuss the utility of the "Backstory first" categorization and that any intimations about the functioning or worth of any specific games or playstyles are entirely unintended. Indeed, rereading our exchange I am completely at a loss as to how I might have come across the way you evidently read my posts. Do you have any suggestions for how I might have been more clear that I am discussing the "Backstory first" categorization and not the worth of specific games or playstyles? [/QUOTE]
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