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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8444703" data-attributes="member: 6785785">I think they’re definitely examples of GM force, but I think they were different enough to look at separately. Yeah, that’s largely how I felt. In the first example, I just had to accept that the hag was escaping, I guess.The second seemed less like thwarting the player and more like building on what a player did. It seemed at least a bit creative and we wound up in a new situation. Like I said, I think I’d have preferred a roll of some kind with this as a consequence. It bothered me far less and the player of the character who cast the spell thought it was an interesting turn of events.It was indeed clumsy, I’d say. We’re playing via discord, full theater of the mind, so distances aren’t exact by any means, and terrain isn’t always perfectly established. But the range of the longbow certainly covered the entirety of the battle area, which was likely maybe 100 feet between the furthest combatants.Yeah, he definitely leans toward trying to present dynamic and fun scenes. And often he’s successful, but I think these examples show he sometimes gets too married to certain ideas, and then steers toward them, perhaps even not realizing it.Well in this instance the hags weren’t involved…these were two separate situations with only some minor connections.I don’t think the rules support this happening, but I don’t think they specifically block it, either. Certainly the Find Familiar spell is worded in such a way that this kind of thing isn’t addressed at all. I think this is one of the reasons that it bothered me less. The situation with the fleeing hag undermined a few rules to some extent.</blockquote>

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