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<blockquote data-quote="viscounteric" data-source="post: 1596755" data-attributes="member: 9706"><p>I believe it was 1996 when Steve Jackson (the American one <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) was a guest of honor at Dexcon in New Jersey. My friend and I were demonstrating a miniature game in the same room as the Star Wars and Ogre Macroture games.</p><p></p><p>Between sessions Saturday afternoon, Mr. Jackson was making small talk with everyone in room. He talked to the two of us for about 20 minutes while all of us were eating lunch. About halfway through the discussion my friend exclaimed:</p><p></p><p>Wooly: Wow, how'da thunk last month that I'd be standing around eating hot dogs with Steve Jackson. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> </p><p></p><p>Steve Jackson: You don't get out much, do you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p>From talking to various and sundry psuedo-gaming celebs at Origins, all game designers, etc. want from people is an honest opinion, solid questions (even if they get asked the same ones over and over again), and a thank you if you enjoyed the product. </p><p></p><p>...and $20 for the latest supplement they're hawking wouldn't hurt either. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>As for the "troll list" Jonathan Tweet has cranked out awesome books for Atlas and pre-Magic WOTC for 15 years. </p><p></p><p>In the hierarchy of gaming legends: Gygax, Arneson, and Lou Zocchi sit atop the gamer gods by the grognards (google Zocchi - Gamescience little children and learn!).</p><p>For ba-jillions of little card gamers, Richard Garfield goes here.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Steve Jackson, Sandy Peterson, and *cough* Kevin Siembeda (sp?) are on the intermediate level. Peter Adkinson would fit here in an directly opposite spot that she-who-shall-not-be-named should be here (Not all gaming legends are good! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> )</p><p></p><p>Tweet and host of other talented writers (most of whom the average d20 player probably doesn't even know about) fill out the bottom ranks of respect.</p><p>Most of the German board game designers would go here, although some deserve to go higher.</p><p></p><p>The others on the list: </p><p>Zeb Cook: 2nd Edition, whether you liked it or not, puts in the bottom ranks. The fact that he wrote Isle of Dread and The Desert Nomad Series, allows him to be the guy who gets the pizza and beer at the intermediate levels parties.</p><p></p><p>Monte Cook: I'll nod to his editing/development with Rolemaster, but most of his impressive credits (save Labyrinth of Madness) are less than five years old. I won't even consider him in the above categories for another 5 years or so. </p><p></p><p>Steve Wieck: oooh...good one! Although most WoD will know Mark Rein*Hagen more. I know more about Steve's brother Stewart than Steve <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> </p><p></p><p>Skip Williams: eh...</p><p></p><p>Dancy: The fella rubs me the wrong way, his impact on the hobby is only 4 years old, and his credits are thin, but if OGL is still prevlelant in 2010, I'll be happy to give him his due. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The again I understand some of the backlash. Same thing happens in other parts of life: </p><p></p><p>"Elvis/Reagan/Gygax was a hero to some, but he never meant Gratz' to me"</p><p></p><p>Chuck D20, The Quintessential Public Enemy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="viscounteric, post: 1596755, member: 9706"] I believe it was 1996 when Steve Jackson (the American one ;) ) was a guest of honor at Dexcon in New Jersey. My friend and I were demonstrating a miniature game in the same room as the Star Wars and Ogre Macroture games. Between sessions Saturday afternoon, Mr. Jackson was making small talk with everyone in room. He talked to the two of us for about 20 minutes while all of us were eating lunch. About halfway through the discussion my friend exclaimed: Wooly: Wow, how'da thunk last month that I'd be standing around eating hot dogs with Steve Jackson. :heh: Steve Jackson: You don't get out much, do you :p From talking to various and sundry psuedo-gaming celebs at Origins, all game designers, etc. want from people is an honest opinion, solid questions (even if they get asked the same ones over and over again), and a thank you if you enjoyed the product. ...and $20 for the latest supplement they're hawking wouldn't hurt either. ;) As for the "troll list" Jonathan Tweet has cranked out awesome books for Atlas and pre-Magic WOTC for 15 years. In the hierarchy of gaming legends: Gygax, Arneson, and Lou Zocchi sit atop the gamer gods by the grognards (google Zocchi - Gamescience little children and learn!). For ba-jillions of little card gamers, Richard Garfield goes here. Steve Jackson, Sandy Peterson, and *cough* Kevin Siembeda (sp?) are on the intermediate level. Peter Adkinson would fit here in an directly opposite spot that she-who-shall-not-be-named should be here (Not all gaming legends are good! :uhoh: ) Tweet and host of other talented writers (most of whom the average d20 player probably doesn't even know about) fill out the bottom ranks of respect. Most of the German board game designers would go here, although some deserve to go higher. The others on the list: Zeb Cook: 2nd Edition, whether you liked it or not, puts in the bottom ranks. The fact that he wrote Isle of Dread and The Desert Nomad Series, allows him to be the guy who gets the pizza and beer at the intermediate levels parties. Monte Cook: I'll nod to his editing/development with Rolemaster, but most of his impressive credits (save Labyrinth of Madness) are less than five years old. I won't even consider him in the above categories for another 5 years or so. Steve Wieck: oooh...good one! Although most WoD will know Mark Rein*Hagen more. I know more about Steve's brother Stewart than Steve :o Skip Williams: eh... Dancy: The fella rubs me the wrong way, his impact on the hobby is only 4 years old, and his credits are thin, but if OGL is still prevlelant in 2010, I'll be happy to give him his due. The again I understand some of the backlash. Same thing happens in other parts of life: "Elvis/Reagan/Gygax was a hero to some, but he never meant Gratz' to me" Chuck D20, The Quintessential Public Enemy :eek: [/QUOTE]
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