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<blockquote data-quote="Chimera" data-source="post: 2500093" data-attributes="member: 2002">Forget the split.Every person at the table has a responsibility to themselves and each other for the fun they have or do not have.As a player or a GM, you need to adjust to the group and to the game.&nbsp; If you can't, or if you're not having fun, then move on.&nbsp; Because you're not doing anyone any favors by staying and being a jerk about things.I had some former players who didn't think that they needed to make any effort to make the game fun for each other or fun for me.&nbsp; They seemed to think that since I had taken it upon myself to GM a game and invite them, that ALL responsibility for their fun and my own rested on my shoulders.&nbsp; I don't play with those people anymore.&nbsp; I don't KNOW those people anymore.OTOH, I make exceptions for sincere attempts to make changes that make more people happy.&nbsp; If most of your group isn't happy, then changes need to be made.&nbsp; Whether this involves getting the GM to change his/her style (ie, less adversarial, more detailed, tougher, more treasure, less treasure, whatever) or getting one player to change his style (shut up/play more cooperative characters/pay more attention/stop insulting X) makes little objective difference.&nbsp; Sometimes surgery has to be performed to increase everyone's fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chimera, post: 2500093, member: 2002"] Forget the split. [b]Every person at the table has a responsibility to themselves and each other for the fun they have or do not have.[/b] As a player or a GM, you need to adjust to the group and to the game. If you can't, or if you're not having fun, then move on. Because you're not doing anyone any favors by staying and being a jerk about things. I had some former players who didn't think that they needed to make any effort to make the game fun for each other or fun for me. They seemed to think that since I had taken it upon myself to GM a game and invite them, that ALL responsibility for their fun and my own rested on my shoulders. I don't play with those people anymore. I don't KNOW those people anymore. OTOH, I make exceptions for sincere attempts to make changes that make more people happy. If most of your group isn't happy, then changes need to be made. Whether this involves getting the GM to change his/her style (ie, less adversarial, more detailed, tougher, more treasure, less treasure, whatever) or getting one player to change his style (shut up/play more cooperative characters/pay more attention/stop insulting X) makes little objective difference. Sometimes surgery has to be performed to increase everyone's fun. [/QUOTE]

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