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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7122246" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Naw, sorry, that is yet another shifting position for you:</p><p></p><p>1) First you mentioned the rules don't address this and when I showed they do you shifted to focusing on adventures. </p><p>2) Second I went through an adventure and you said it WAS a pretty good response, BUT that it was just one adventure and not representative of the published adventures in general.</p><p>3) Third I went through a second adventure and you have shifted again to saying it's an such an unsatisfactory solution that you "didn't count it". </p><p></p><p>All this, despite earlier saying (and these are direct quotes):</p><p></p><p>"This does seem to be a magnitude more involved enforcement than Strahd or Abyss. Thank you." and</p><p>"Excellent. Now, what are your thoughts about Tyranny, Abyss, Strahd, Thunder and Yawning? Would you say Princes is typical or atypical?" and </p><p>"<strong>This is exactly what I want, yes</strong>." and </p><p>"I started this thread because I haven't come across a 5th edition adventure anywhere near this level of attention poured on the question of rest restriction and ways to meet the 6-8 encounter expectation. So Princes get an OK from you. That's great to hear! Any other WotC 5e modules you'd like to share info on?"</p><p></p><p>There is no reasonable way to go from telling me things like "THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT, YES" and "Excellent" and "great to hear!" to "that's just such an unsatisfactory and incomplete and easily circumvented solution I didn't even count it."</p><p></p><p>That, my friend, is a complete and total shift in your position purely in response to someone actually addressing your point directly. You absolutely "counted" it earlier, and said so, unless you were just blatantly lying earlier when you said it was "EXACTLY" what you wanted and "EXCELLENT". Now it's so far from "exactly" what you wanted that it you "didn't even count it"? BAH LONEY! </p><p></p><p>So now I am back to asking why? Why would you do something like asking me directly if there were any other WOTC 5e modules that did that and tell me that was an excellent solution and exactly what you were looking for and great to hear, if you actually meant it's so unsatisfactory and incomplete and easily circumvented that you wouldn't even count it? Why would you send me on that kind of wild goose chase if you had no intention of backing up your claimed satisfaction with that solution to begin with?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7122246, member: 2525"] Naw, sorry, that is yet another shifting position for you: 1) First you mentioned the rules don't address this and when I showed they do you shifted to focusing on adventures. 2) Second I went through an adventure and you said it WAS a pretty good response, BUT that it was just one adventure and not representative of the published adventures in general. 3) Third I went through a second adventure and you have shifted again to saying it's an such an unsatisfactory solution that you "didn't count it". All this, despite earlier saying (and these are direct quotes): "This does seem to be a magnitude more involved enforcement than Strahd or Abyss. Thank you." and "Excellent. Now, what are your thoughts about Tyranny, Abyss, Strahd, Thunder and Yawning? Would you say Princes is typical or atypical?" and "[B]This is exactly what I want, yes[/B]." and "I started this thread because I haven't come across a 5th edition adventure anywhere near this level of attention poured on the question of rest restriction and ways to meet the 6-8 encounter expectation. So Princes get an OK from you. That's great to hear! Any other WotC 5e modules you'd like to share info on?" There is no reasonable way to go from telling me things like "THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT, YES" and "Excellent" and "great to hear!" to "that's just such an unsatisfactory and incomplete and easily circumvented solution I didn't even count it." That, my friend, is a complete and total shift in your position purely in response to someone actually addressing your point directly. You absolutely "counted" it earlier, and said so, unless you were just blatantly lying earlier when you said it was "EXACTLY" what you wanted and "EXCELLENT". Now it's so far from "exactly" what you wanted that it you "didn't even count it"? BAH LONEY! So now I am back to asking why? Why would you do something like asking me directly if there were any other WOTC 5e modules that did that and tell me that was an excellent solution and exactly what you were looking for and great to hear, if you actually meant it's so unsatisfactory and incomplete and easily circumvented that you wouldn't even count it? Why would you send me on that kind of wild goose chase if you had no intention of backing up your claimed satisfaction with that solution to begin with? [/QUOTE]
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