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<blockquote data-quote="DaedalusX51" data-source="post: 7123138" data-attributes="member: 96233">I think clearly defining the win and loss conditions of an adventure can only be a good thing.&nbsp; What's the sense of accomplishment if you can't have a chance to fail?&nbsp; A moment of failure can be a great motivator for character development.&nbsp; Forcing an adventure failure on taking a long rest just assumes by default that there is an expected time limit to the adventure.&nbsp; You can determine what that is yourself.Short rests are are limited by their 1 hour time span and having a chance for increased difficulty.&nbsp; I never said always increased difficulty. The wandering monster table I was referring to would not be a predefined list of monsters, but a table for creature types.&nbsp; For example, see below.Wandering Monster TableCreature Type |&nbsp; d20 ResultNone&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | 13-20Other&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; 8-12Intelligent&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp; 1-7This gives it a 35% chance to encounter an intelligent wandering monster that will make the next encounters harder, a 35% chance to encounter nothing, and a 25% chance to encounter a monster that will not make the next few encounters harder.I think that will discourage players from wanting to rest after taking one or two short rests.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DaedalusX51, post: 7123138, member: 96233"] I think clearly defining the win and loss conditions of an adventure can only be a good thing. What's the sense of accomplishment if you can't have a chance to fail? A moment of failure can be a great motivator for character development. Forcing an adventure failure on taking a long rest just assumes by default that there is an expected time limit to the adventure. You can determine what that is yourself. Short rests are are limited by their 1 hour time span and having a chance for increased difficulty. I never said always increased difficulty. The wandering monster table I was referring to would not be a predefined list of monsters, but a table for creature types. For example, see below. [B]Wandering Monster Table[/B] [U]Creature Type | d20 Result[/U] None | 13-20 Other | 8-12 Intelligent | 1-7 This gives it a 35% chance to encounter an intelligent wandering monster that will make the next encounters harder, a 35% chance to encounter nothing, and a 25% chance to encounter a monster that will not make the next few encounters harder. I think that will discourage players from wanting to rest after taking one or two short rests. [/QUOTE]

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