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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7126430" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Glancing through this thread there seems to be two sides.In one corner, the "5E is broke" crowd says that things don't work because they see 5 minute work days and no mechanical enforcement of the general assumptions of how many encounters groups get between short and long rests.In the other corner, the "It ain't broke, but it may take some work on the DM's side to fix it" crowd.  Basically that the system works well enough if the DM understands the issue (and wants to address it).  If you're using a published module, you may need to tweak it a little bit to meet the needs of your style, expectations and group.  No mod could be written to satisfy every group.Is there any concrete rule change the former group would implement to change the issue that they see?  Because at this point I just see a lot of complaining and ignoring the advice of the latter group.I will be the first to admit that I'm pretty strongly in the latter group.  I implement the optional rest rule from the DMG (a short rest is 8 hours, long rest is at least several days) in my campaign.  It suits the pace of my campaign better (more investigaion/exploration than dungeon crawl).  We frequently have two or more sessions between long rests, with only 1 or two short rests per session.However, even before I chose to go with that rule I still followed the general guidelines by setting deadlines and consequences.  Stop for an hour for a lunch break while investigating the evil cultists?  They ambush you.  Run away from the secret lair to someplace safe?  When you come back, reinforcements have arrived (perhaps just replacing defeated opponents) and traps have been set because they know someone has found their lair.I honestly don't see how this is an issue, or what could be done differently.  The DM is control of the game - we are not slaves to the printed word in modules.  D&D works because the DM can make adjustments on the fly.The other "elephant in the room" is that some groups enjoy 5 minute work days.  In a campaign (sadly coming to an end soon) that I play in we regularly have only a handful of fights between long rests (well, that may be a 15 minute work day instead of 5 minute but the concept is the same).  I don't see a problem with it, even if it's not my cup of tea.  It's just a different style of play, one that puts more emphasis on characters that can nova.</blockquote>

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