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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 7147571" data-attributes="member: 6778044">When you say "what criteria might need to be met in order for a long rest to be possible" it doesn't make any sense to me. Why? Because to me a long rest is a good night's sleep. So anyplace you (as a character) feel you can make that happen is suitable. It might fail. You might find yourself in the position of the characters in the Hobbit when the place they stopped for a rest dumped them into the goblins' lair. Not every time. And certainly not as a punitive action by the DM.But I'm not one to try to "game" the system, "Hey, you don't even need to sleep to benefit from a long rest, heh, heh..."Yeah, whatever. The game needs a system to regain hit points and abilities "naturally" and the rules are based on the very simple concept that people take a few breaks during a day, have a couple of meals, and stop for the night to get some sleep. So if you simply approach the game from that perspective, then there really isn't an issue.The answer to me has always returned to treating the character like a person in a world, not a bunch of stats interacting with the rules of a game. People are creatures of habit. Most like something to eat in the morning, they get on with the day, take a quick break at some point, have lunch, maybe another break in the afternoon, then stop for the day, make dinner, and relax, then get to bed for a good night's sleep. They don't like to be bored, tend not to like to wait around and do nothing, and have goals and a certain amount of productivity they expect to accomplish for the day.If you just survived a combat, you'll probably want a snack, a few sips of water, and a few minutes to catch your breath and recover. Then move on. If you (as a DM and group) decide that a 10-15 minute break following a combat is sufficient to warrant healing a few hit points and refreshing your abilities, then great. Change the rule from 1 hour to 10 minutes.On the other hand, if you think they should only be able to replenish their abilities a couple of times a day, then tie it into their meals. You can take a short rest when you have a meal. If you have the types of players that decide they are going to sit down for an hour long meal after every combat... Well, first I think you need to discuss expectations. What are they really looking to accomplish? If they are going to insist on this charade no matter what rule you make, then why fight it? Really.But if you want to go there, then fine. You can have a meal at every rest, and sufficient water. You'll also find that you need to carry a lot more food and water with you. Oh, and after a few weeks your armor doesn't fit anymore. You'll need to purchase some more. Also, you've now gotten large enough that you have disadvantage on Dexterity checks and saving throws. Don't want to sleep - fine. Make a Constitution save each hour or suffer a level of exhaustion.</blockquote>

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