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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 7166917" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>I don't think I follow this reasoning. If I expect an encounter to involve some climbing on the part of the PCs, and so I come up with a table that reflects climbing DCs for the areas of the encounter location....i genuinely don't really see how that's different than if I just assign a climb DC at the time a PC tries to climb a wall in the encounter. </p><p></p><p>I can understand how it helps you given your table's style and expectations....you can show them afterward "see? it was a DC 15 check per my notes" but beyond that, I don't see any distinction. It's a DM deciding on a DC.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To some extent, yes, but ultimately, no. In both instances, the DM has decided "it's a DC 15 climb check for this wall" or "there are 5 trolls in this room, and 2 more in the next room that will react to the sound of combat within 3 rounds". It's just a question of when the DM decides this. If the DM's ability to judge is sound, then I don't see the issue of when this decision is made. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can appreciate a different way of thinking...I don't think I'd continue to discuss it if I didn't appreciate your thoughts. I may question things, but it's more to understand the reasoning behind the approach you take, not a lack of appreciation for the style you prefer. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But doesn't it go through a DM in between anyway? Isn't any PC action then filtered through some kind of DM judgement and then an outcome is determined? So if the sequence of events is this:</p><p>PC Action</p><p>DM Looks at his pre-written notes</p><p>DM abdicates the action</p><p></p><p>Then I don't see a difference from this:</p><p>PC Action</p><p>DM thinks about the mitigating factors</p><p>DM abdicates the action</p><p></p><p>In either case, the middle step requires DM judgement. I hope that's clearer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 7166917, member: 6785785"] I don't think I follow this reasoning. If I expect an encounter to involve some climbing on the part of the PCs, and so I come up with a table that reflects climbing DCs for the areas of the encounter location....i genuinely don't really see how that's different than if I just assign a climb DC at the time a PC tries to climb a wall in the encounter. I can understand how it helps you given your table's style and expectations....you can show them afterward "see? it was a DC 15 check per my notes" but beyond that, I don't see any distinction. It's a DM deciding on a DC. To some extent, yes, but ultimately, no. In both instances, the DM has decided "it's a DC 15 climb check for this wall" or "there are 5 trolls in this room, and 2 more in the next room that will react to the sound of combat within 3 rounds". It's just a question of when the DM decides this. If the DM's ability to judge is sound, then I don't see the issue of when this decision is made. I can appreciate a different way of thinking...I don't think I'd continue to discuss it if I didn't appreciate your thoughts. I may question things, but it's more to understand the reasoning behind the approach you take, not a lack of appreciation for the style you prefer. But doesn't it go through a DM in between anyway? Isn't any PC action then filtered through some kind of DM judgement and then an outcome is determined? So if the sequence of events is this: PC Action DM Looks at his pre-written notes DM abdicates the action Then I don't see a difference from this: PC Action DM thinks about the mitigating factors DM abdicates the action In either case, the middle step requires DM judgement. I hope that's clearer. [/QUOTE]
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