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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 7169706" data-attributes="member: 6778044">Yes and no. I could theoretically have put all that time and effort into 4e to make it work with my AD&D style game and setting, but thankfully I didn't have to as my players didn't like it either. There comes a point where there is just too much to change to make it do what you want. Of course, at that time I didn't realize how much AD&D we were still playing in our 3.5e game. But then I wasn't active on the forums back then either, so I probably missed that I was playing it differently, not to mention suggestions on how to fit 4e into an older campaign.Having said that, if you want to continue to use what's newly published (again, thankfully I didn't care about what was published for 4e either), you're kind of stuck using the current version of the rules. I get that, and understand the complaints that [MENTION=54690]outsider[/MENTION] has because of it. He would prefer to be playing 4e, but either can't find the people, or doesn't want to keep playing old material. Somebody either more knowledgeable in 4e would have to provide some suggestions there, or I'd need to be pointed in the right direction and go dig out the books.As for [MENTION=54380]shoak1[/MENTION] at times it sounds like there's a lot of overlap between his style and mine (or others), and other times it seems like he's talking about playing a different game. I can't really judge how compatible 5e is to his play style, or even if 4e is closer. It's probably just me that's not getting it.I'm still happy to try to help if we figure it out!</blockquote>

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