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<blockquote data-quote="shoak1" data-source="post: 7170490" data-attributes="member: 54380"><p>Yeah 4e was great for DM Light and Big Challenge, bad for Big Empowered DM and Big Story.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again good for DM Light and Big Challenge, bad for Big Empowered DM and Big Story. Can you see why I see 5e as reactionary and not as The Game To Unite Us?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, thank you for noting, I agree.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right but since the CR and budgets in 4e were so spot on, and the linear path so clear, it was exceedingly easy to then tweak for the rest problem. In 5e, the rest problem, spotty accuracy of the CRs/ELs, and the sandboxy nature make it an utter wreck when looking for DM Light or Big Challenge. I think that's why its so hard for sandbox guys in 5e (especially DMs who didn't play much 4e) to appreciate playing the way we did in 4e. I'm often seen as a bit of a pariah here when in reality I'm just playing the way that was supported in 3.5 and 4e.</p><p></p><p>To be honest its easier for me to convert a 4e module to 5e than it is to convert a 5e module with its Big Empowered DM / Big Story style into DM Light and Big Challenge. But either way its a lot of work. And it would be nice to get an ounce of support from the alleged Game To Unite the Edition Factions (pouty face).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shoak1, post: 7170490, member: 54380"] Yeah 4e was great for DM Light and Big Challenge, bad for Big Empowered DM and Big Story. Again good for DM Light and Big Challenge, bad for Big Empowered DM and Big Story. Can you see why I see 5e as reactionary and not as The Game To Unite Us? Yes, thank you for noting, I agree. Right but since the CR and budgets in 4e were so spot on, and the linear path so clear, it was exceedingly easy to then tweak for the rest problem. In 5e, the rest problem, spotty accuracy of the CRs/ELs, and the sandboxy nature make it an utter wreck when looking for DM Light or Big Challenge. I think that's why its so hard for sandbox guys in 5e (especially DMs who didn't play much 4e) to appreciate playing the way we did in 4e. I'm often seen as a bit of a pariah here when in reality I'm just playing the way that was supported in 3.5 and 4e. To be honest its easier for me to convert a 4e module to 5e than it is to convert a 5e module with its Big Empowered DM / Big Story style into DM Light and Big Challenge. But either way its a lot of work. And it would be nice to get an ounce of support from the alleged Game To Unite the Edition Factions (pouty face). [/QUOTE]
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