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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5472693" data-attributes="member: 8835">I like where Simm is heading.  What is the problems to solve and example scenarios to prevent misuse.  What is the simplest set of mechanisms to resolve a skill check and prevent problems?Examples of skill usages:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">opening the pickle jar</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Jumping across a gap</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">attacking after a miss</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">repeated pick lock attempts</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">searching a room</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Trying to change somebody's mind</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Conga line skill attempts by each PC</li> </ol>We could all live without the embarrassment of the wife opening the wimp opening the pickle jar after mr. Muscles failed.  The no-reroll rule doesn't hurt here.Jumping and failing kind of takes care of itselfMissing in combat has a consequence.  Your enemy lives to make an attack against you.  In fact, this reveals the concern with allowing re-rolls on other skill checks.If your thief fails to pick the lock, what happens?  Time passes?  Some GMs don't think to bring in a Wandering Monster or other consequence.  So the result is, failure is FREE.  Unlike all the other times.Failure should probably not be free.  It should cost money to get more parts/tools.  Your hands should get tired, making subsequent attempts harder.  Time passing should have a negative consequence.  Or you should only get one chance, the one that matters.If you do limit a check to 1 try, I recommend:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">always use the highest skill level in the party</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Add in helper bonuses for the other PCs who can help</li> </ul>If you allow a re-roll, there must be a consequence:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">PC used up resources to improve their chance</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">PC is tired, so the next attempt is harder (DC increased)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Time went by, bas stuff happens as a result</li> </ul>I actually pre-roll Spot checks for dungeons on this best-1-roll premise.  Before the game starts, I roll for all the hidden stuff.  That way, when I reveal the room, I reveal the extra information as part of the description.  Rather than wasting time doing rolls.  Though for the pre-Spot check, I do it individually as that's a solo activity.</blockquote>

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