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<blockquote data-quote="Paradoxish" data-source="post: 620227" data-attributes="member: 9623">I agree 100%. I hope I didn't come off in my original post as implying that I was restricting this PrC because this particular player is a power gamer. Rather, I typed up a list of what PrCs from the Wizards books are allowed before the campaign even began. This was mainly to save me the trouble of having everyone come up to me at the beginning of the game asking if something is allowed. It just so happened that this particular PrC wasn't on my &quot;approved&quot; list and the person who wanted to take it got into an argument with me. I ended up explaining to him that I found it so unbalancing that I would never even think of using in its current state, even for an NPC.This may sound a little nonsensical and a bit like a rant, but sometimes it seems like I'm talking to a wall when it comes half of the players in my gaming group. The two people who I would classify as &quot;powergamers&quot; - sometimes to the point where I wonder if they even understand the concept of RPGs. Telling them that it's essentially up to the DM what to allow and what not to allow is usually met with a response along the lines of &quot;That's not fair!&quot;. Maybe I just need to find new players. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Paradoxish, post: 620227, member: 9623"] I agree 100%. I hope I didn't come off in my original post as implying that I was restricting this PrC [b]because[/b] this particular player is a power gamer. Rather, I typed up a list of what PrCs from the Wizards books are allowed before the campaign even began. This was mainly to save me the trouble of having everyone come up to me at the beginning of the game asking if something is allowed. It just so happened that this particular PrC wasn't on my "approved" list and the person who wanted to take it got into an argument with me. I ended up explaining to him that I found it so unbalancing that I would never even think of using in its current state, even for an NPC. This may sound a little nonsensical and a bit like a rant, but sometimes it seems like I'm talking to a wall when it comes half of the players in my gaming group. The two people who I would classify as "powergamers" - sometimes to the point where I wonder if they even understand the concept of RPGs. Telling them that it's essentially up to the DM what to allow and what not to allow is usually met with a response along the lines of "That's not fair!". Maybe I just need to find new players. :( [/QUOTE]

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