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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 7849622" data-attributes="member: 58172">Generally speaking.I am less a fan of sabotaging character concepts for the sake of making a dungeon crawl secretive.For example, D&D mostly destroys the classic ability of being able to Phase thru solid objects, delaying it to ridiculously high levels, just so the DM can keep a room secret.In the case of Phase, I would rather low level be normal. When the DM needs a room to shut out player characters, then there needs to be low level spells like ‘Wall of Protection against Evil’ that also shut out phasing characters, thus can seal off a room.Regarding murder mysteries. I find them almost untenable in D&D. Even a low level nonplayer character can hire someone to cast Raise Dead. The murder no longer has serious consequences.In a magical world of resurrection, prescience, scrying, and contacting souls elsewhere. A murder mystery in D&D would need to be ingenious to even remotely feel believable.Part of the solution is spells like Nondetection to block attempts to identify the murder.The success of a murderer depends on contests between powerful mages.</blockquote>