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<blockquote data-quote="Andrew D. Gable" data-source="post: 2077558" data-attributes="member: 4144">It's fudging the timeline a bit.&nbsp; Crowley actually didn't show up in the Dawn until 1898, but I figured, hey, why not.&nbsp; I already have Thomas Bond dead, and his suicide was in 1901 IRL.&nbsp; And I also fudged the timeline with the whole Aleister Crowley being Mary Kelly's kid deal, too.&nbsp; Canonically (well, according to Joe Barnett, her boyfriend), Mary at least claimed to be 25.&nbsp; Which puts her being born in 1863 and therefore being only 12 when Crowley was born in 1875.&nbsp; I fudged things and made both Mary and Crowley a bit older.At least some claim that Crowley went bad in 1899, when he was living at Boleskine House on Loch Ness (owned by Jimmy Page for a while).&nbsp; Here, he tried a magical ritual out of the Book of Abramelin the Mage, ignoring the fact that the ritual stipulated that you be 25.&nbsp; And he was only 24.&nbsp; Some claim his turn was caused by a magical backlash there.&nbsp; He didn't stay in the Dawn long.&nbsp; I think by 1900 he was gone, mostly because he was angry that Florence Farr wouldn't admit him into the inner grades of the Order and thus he couldn't learn much of any real magic.Personally, I think it's neat that immediately upon Crowley's initiation, another Dawn member, Allan Bennett, said that &quot;you have been messing with the Goetia (evil spirits)!&quot;.&nbsp; Crowley denied it and Bennett replied, &quot;then the Goetia have been messing with you!&quot;.&nbsp; Paraphrased.But overall, I agree with Jim that Crowley got a bad rap.&nbsp; Oh, he was a nutjob, be certain, but generally harmless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Andrew D. Gable, post: 2077558, member: 4144"] It's fudging the timeline a bit. Crowley actually didn't show up in the Dawn until 1898, but I figured, hey, why not. I already have Thomas Bond dead, and his suicide was in 1901 IRL. And I also fudged the timeline with the whole Aleister Crowley being Mary Kelly's kid deal, too. Canonically (well, according to Joe Barnett, her boyfriend), Mary at least claimed to be 25. Which puts her being born in 1863 and therefore being only 12 when Crowley was born in 1875. I fudged things and made both Mary and Crowley a bit older. At least some claim that Crowley went bad in 1899, when he was living at Boleskine House on Loch Ness (owned by Jimmy Page for a while). Here, he tried a magical ritual out of the Book of Abramelin the Mage, ignoring the fact that the ritual stipulated that you be 25. And he was only 24. Some claim his turn was caused by a magical backlash there. He didn't stay in the Dawn long. I think by 1900 he was gone, mostly because he was angry that Florence Farr wouldn't admit him into the inner grades of the Order and thus he couldn't learn much of any real magic. Personally, I think it's neat that immediately upon Crowley's initiation, another Dawn member, Allan Bennett, said that "you have been messing with the Goetia (evil spirits)!". Crowley denied it and Bennett replied, "then the Goetia have been messing with you!". Paraphrased. But overall, I agree with Jim that Crowley got a bad rap. Oh, he was a nutjob, be certain, but generally harmless. [/QUOTE]

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