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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 5170093" data-attributes="member: 8461">Looking back on that, I didn't do a good job tying that adventure idea to the Blood War. The implication that I was trying to make was that the devils would want to stymie demons naturally, since they're at war, and the PCs know/learn this, and so turn to them in desperation - that the devils get to make a favorable deal with mortals to stop the demons is them making the situation pay off double (which is what devils, natural schemers, should do).EDIT: Responding to some of Mouseferatu's other points.Yes, to us, from our standpoint. But put a much wider multiverse into play, and I think that view becomes parochial. There's more out there than the mortal plane, and while it's certainly different from the Outer or Inner planes, it's not necessarily of any greater importance.I see some fiends as being primarily concerned with corrupting mortals and gaining cults, certainly. But even those have some greater end in mind beyond the sheer sense of evil joy or satisfaction that comes with ruining someone's soul - some want to become gods, for example, which is desiring greater personal power, and just using mortals to that end.Other fiends might not care about mortals at all, however. Some might just want to gain greater control of their own plane. Others might want to invade the Upper planes and lay waste to Heaven (and/or other planes of goodness). A great example of this was the balor-turned-Abyssal Lord Hedrenatherax in Blackdirge's novel <a href="http://enworld.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=56774" target="_blank">Metamorphosis: From Dretch to Demon Lord</a> - he didn't care about mortals, save that his layer happened to have resources to turn their souls into demons; he wanted to rule the layer himself. That, to me, is much more believable, and more interesting, than a demon who wants nothing more than to ruin one life at a time.Yeah, but a race is made up of individuals. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I can understand not wanting/needing a deeper motivation for NPCs that are in an adventure primarily to be killed by the PCs - each encounter doesn't need much of a (or in some cases, any) backstory. But overall, just saying that there's an entire race of powerful, immortal, intelligent, scheming evil creatures who have no drive or ambition except to basically commit artful murders really seems like a waste.</blockquote>

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