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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8691853" data-attributes="member: 7025508">I said one cannot prove objective morality. Whether something you cannot prove actually exists in some unreachable platonic idea realm is of little consequence. But ultimately we all have our moral instincts upon which we build our moral frameworks. But if someone doesn't agree with our axioms then we really cannot prove those to them. That's just how it is. And no, I don't think this unfortunate imperfection means one should stop arguing for positions one sees as moral. Morality is a social construct, and we all need to live in societies governed by such social constructs. So it makes plenty of sense to participate in building of that construct. Right. So they don't agree whether "Good" is good and whether "Evil" is evil, or perhaps other way around.</blockquote>