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Message: <blockquote data-quote="breschau" data-source="post: 4095512" data-attributes="member: 52376">According to <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/benimoto/2307597095/sizes/o/" target="_blank">this</a> photo from XP:At the far edge of the page is the shield text, the last bit is interesting:The assumption was that shields only gave a bonus to Reflexes. Assuming shields grant a bonus to Reflex then heavy shields grant a +2 bonus, judging from the pregens.If Small size is still +1, judging from the pregens we know that plate is then +7 AC (+1 size, +2 shield). It was assumed before that AC is Reflex Defense plus armor. Considering the above text, we know that's false.Chainmail is therefore +6 AC (heavy armor = no bonus and no shield on the cleric, easy). But, scale is +7 AC (heavy armor = no bonus w/ +2 from shield, no size bonus).The trouble is then that scale and plate would offer the same protection. When the plate text clearly stats that "plate provides the most armor protection." From the order of listing and text we can assume that they should offer more protection, in the order listed.Chain +6, scale +7, plate +8 is what I think it will be.EDIT: One of two assumptions must be true; either the size bonus was left off of the halfling's AC or size no longer offers an AC bonus. I think the former is far more likely.</blockquote>