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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Transformer" data-source="post: 5910780" data-attributes="member: 70008">I think I may be more pessimistic than you are, delericho. I'm not at all sure 5e can succeed, not because I don't think they can make a great game, but because I think the fanbase may simply be fractured beyond repair. But I'm at least as pessimistic about the possibility of bringing in a large number of new players. WotC tried to do that with 4e, what with making it a bit hipper, a bit more reminiscent of a video game (I am not claiming that 4e was not a proper RPG or that the direction they took it was bad, mind; I like 4e). It seems to have failed. I don't know what factors allowed D&D to draw in new players with OD&D, or during its heydays in the 80s and the early 2000s, but I'm not sure they're around anymore.It sounds, from Wizards' talk so far, that they're focusing on getting all sorts of former players back rather than bringing new players in. Like you say, there's a good chance that's impossible (Pathfinderers in particular not only like their system, they like their company and are proud to support it), but Wizards still seems to regard it as a better attempt than trying to court a whole new wave of newbies.</blockquote>