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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herzog" data-source="post: 5220901" data-attributes="member: 25696">Not as I understand them. What you are doing is replacing existing abilities with new abilities. Skill retraining allows you to move 4 ranks in ANY skill to a skill that is a class skill for ANY of your current classes. It doesn't matter if you originally bought the source skill as class or cross class ranks.You could take a level rogue (for the skillpoints) at first level, fill up the rogue class skills, then take other classes and move the bought ranks over to your new class skills at 4 ranks per level. The endresult is, technically, an illegal character. With feats it's a bit more difficult: if you retrain a feat, the new feat must be legal at both your current level and the level you took the old feat. (making Able Learner an illegal feat to retrain to, since you can take it only at first level) @HoboGod:The feat is not a requirement, the skill ranks are. Same question in other words: If you retrain something (racial substitution level etc) and that results in a class skill becoming a cross-class skill for a certain level, what happens to your skill ranks in that skill?</blockquote>