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<blockquote data-quote="DeZwarteMaan" data-source="post: 6445710" data-attributes="member: 6678769"><p><strong>Retraining</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>PHB2 pg192</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><u><strong>CLASS FEATURE RETRAINING</strong></u></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>THE PROCESS</strong></span></p><p> <strong> "...Also, the new choice can't make any of your later choices illegal--though it may automatically change class features acquired later if they are based on the initial choice."</strong></p><p></p><p>In you example, to get entrance into a PrC, the PC took a feat that allowed him to takes 2 cross-class skills and treat them as class skills. Due to these skills being tied to this feat, and they would make the PrC illegal at the time of retrain, these are not possible.. UNLESS he is rebuilding his PC and removing the PrC as well..."Changing class features acquired".</p><p></p><p>At the moment he loses the Feat, the skills become cross-classed again and count as 1/2 which then makes him lose his PrC level... unless changing that level to be a legal class, at the time he had taken the first one.</p><p></p><p>Educated feat: choose 2 knowledge skills and get a +2 bonus to those knowledges. This feat does not apply, nor is it the same. This was from the D20 Modern</p><p></p><p>The non-homebrew feat that your player should have taken is "Able learner" at 1st level. This allows him to treat ALL skills as class skills Cant retrain this once used. Taknig this with a Flaw, makes things easier for getting wierd PrC skills that are annoying.</p><p></p><p>A Mage getting hide and bluff for shdaowcrafting, or search and disable device for Geometer. Annoying off-class PreReq's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DeZwarteMaan, post: 6445710, member: 6678769"] [b]Retraining[/b] [B]PHB2 pg192[/B] [SIZE=4][U][B]CLASS FEATURE RETRAINING[/B][/U][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][B]THE PROCESS[/B][/SIZE] [B] "...Also, the new choice can't make any of your later choices illegal--though it may automatically change class features acquired later if they are based on the initial choice."[/B] In you example, to get entrance into a PrC, the PC took a feat that allowed him to takes 2 cross-class skills and treat them as class skills. Due to these skills being tied to this feat, and they would make the PrC illegal at the time of retrain, these are not possible.. UNLESS he is rebuilding his PC and removing the PrC as well..."Changing class features acquired". At the moment he loses the Feat, the skills become cross-classed again and count as 1/2 which then makes him lose his PrC level... unless changing that level to be a legal class, at the time he had taken the first one. Educated feat: choose 2 knowledge skills and get a +2 bonus to those knowledges. This feat does not apply, nor is it the same. This was from the D20 Modern The non-homebrew feat that your player should have taken is "Able learner" at 1st level. This allows him to treat ALL skills as class skills Cant retrain this once used. Taknig this with a Flaw, makes things easier for getting wierd PrC skills that are annoying. A Mage getting hide and bluff for shdaowcrafting, or search and disable device for Geometer. Annoying off-class PreReq's. [/QUOTE]
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