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<blockquote data-quote="Blackwind" data-source="post: 4797865" data-attributes="member: 1205"><p>Well, I'm 24 and just finishing up my first Basic D&D (red box, 1983) campaign. Yes, that means red box came out a year before I was born. And yes, I'm the DM.</p><p></p><p>All the players in the campaign are 32 years old or under, as well. Only one of them actually started with red box---as for me, I actually started with the Classic D&D boxed set in 1994 and then went straight into 2nd edition. </p><p></p><p>I was also an early adopter of both 3E and 3.5, and watched the development of 4E very closely. </p><p></p><p>See, by the time 4E was announced, I was *very* tired of 3.x. The prep time was killing me, and combat took way too long to play out. Unfortunately, 4E took the game in the exact direction I *didn't* want it to go---combat became even more of a small-scale tactical wargame. Some people enjoy that, but me not so much. </p><p></p><p>I also tried C&C, but didn't like the SIEGE Engine. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, my red box game has been the most fun I've had running D&D since 3E first came out (i.e, before we got up into the higher levels). All the players have loved it, even the 4E DM (who, incidentally, admits he'd have a hard time running his game without software). </p><p></p><p>Combat is a breeze, and the rules are light enough that they never interfere with the flow of the game. It reminds me of 2nd ed., when I knew the rules so well we could play at lunchtime with no books.</p><p></p><p>Although we're using an actual old game instead of a retro-clone, I've read through LL, OSRIC, and S&W, and think they're great, and would use them in a heartbeat if I didn't have the old books. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, I'm probably not typical of most old-school gamers (and I'm not just talking about my age)... Even though I definitely now prefer old-school D&D to new-school D&D, I'm also seeing some of the limitations of these games (as written---e.g, PCs are rewarded almost exclusively for getting treasure), and becoming more interested in some of the more Narrativist indie games. </p><p></p><p>But from now on, when I want to play D&D, I'll choose AD&D1E, B/X, or OD&D (or any of the clones) as opposed to 2E, 3.x, or 4E. Even if I do end up adding some new-fangled Narrativist mechanics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackwind, post: 4797865, member: 1205"] Well, I'm 24 and just finishing up my first Basic D&D (red box, 1983) campaign. Yes, that means red box came out a year before I was born. And yes, I'm the DM. All the players in the campaign are 32 years old or under, as well. Only one of them actually started with red box---as for me, I actually started with the Classic D&D boxed set in 1994 and then went straight into 2nd edition. I was also an early adopter of both 3E and 3.5, and watched the development of 4E very closely. See, by the time 4E was announced, I was *very* tired of 3.x. The prep time was killing me, and combat took way too long to play out. Unfortunately, 4E took the game in the exact direction I *didn't* want it to go---combat became even more of a small-scale tactical wargame. Some people enjoy that, but me not so much. I also tried C&C, but didn't like the SIEGE Engine. Anyway, my red box game has been the most fun I've had running D&D since 3E first came out (i.e, before we got up into the higher levels). All the players have loved it, even the 4E DM (who, incidentally, admits he'd have a hard time running his game without software). Combat is a breeze, and the rules are light enough that they never interfere with the flow of the game. It reminds me of 2nd ed., when I knew the rules so well we could play at lunchtime with no books. Although we're using an actual old game instead of a retro-clone, I've read through LL, OSRIC, and S&W, and think they're great, and would use them in a heartbeat if I didn't have the old books. On the other hand, I'm probably not typical of most old-school gamers (and I'm not just talking about my age)... Even though I definitely now prefer old-school D&D to new-school D&D, I'm also seeing some of the limitations of these games (as written---e.g, PCs are rewarded almost exclusively for getting treasure), and becoming more interested in some of the more Narrativist indie games. But from now on, when I want to play D&D, I'll choose AD&D1E, B/X, or OD&D (or any of the clones) as opposed to 2E, 3.x, or 4E. Even if I do end up adding some new-fangled Narrativist mechanics. [/QUOTE]
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