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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tlantl" data-source="post: 5854204" data-attributes="member: 55225">I always think of Anne McCaffrey's harpers from the Pern series. Those bards do a lot of different things such as being entertainers teachers spies rogues and musicians.To me the D&D bard could easily be a harper on pern, their skills and class abilities, although more magical in nature, fulfill the same roles.I'm not likely to get hung up on classes having to fit into some mold to be deemed fit to be used in a game. If classes need to be evocative and mechanically interesting to be worthy of the game of D&D then they need to chuck the whole deal into the dumpster and make apologies to us for the ton of crap they've been foisting on us for years.But hey I play the game so I can pretend I'm someone else in a world where I'm needed to protect the innocent from terrible monsters and I can control and shape powerful energies to my will. I don't give a .. er care about how many different things my fighter can do in a round or if he does the same thing over and over. If I can swing my sword three times, kill off the threat and get on with the rest of the game then I'm happy. one dimensional fighters are boring when a combat takes hours to slog through. Adding more crap to choose from only adds to that problem, to me extended combat is boring. If I want that there's chess or risk, or D&D miniatures.</blockquote>