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<blockquote data-quote="Morrus" data-source="post: 4841128" data-attributes="member: 1">Turst me, it's there and far worse. Anti-4e sentiment, when it occurs, is much more vitriolic than anti-3E sentiment. Believe me, we have to moderate it! I myself percieve an anti-4E bias, with 4E continually refered to as a video game, compared unfavourably to WOW, described as limited and gamist and as nothing more than a tabletop skirmish/war game, as so forth. It's all a matter of perception (in my case, because those are the ones which end up in the moderator queue most often, highlighting a very strong anti-4E sentiment).&nbsp;&nbsp;And that's fine; I'm not trying to persuade you that you should prefer EN World to your chosen sites. I'm merely suggesting that it's possible that you may be more sensitive to one particular side of the issue.&nbsp;As a side-note to everyone, it's easy to say &quot;EN World seems X to me&quot;; but do you have any actual constructive suggestions on how to address the problems from a moderation front? Preferably suggestions that don't stem from the false premise that the mods treat anyone differently depending on their edition preference rather than their demeanour because, that premise being untrue, it's not really a suggestion we can work with. &nbsp;We're totally open to practical suggestions (doesn't mean we'll adopt them, but if you've thought of some great idea that we haven't, we'll never know about it unless you tell us!) Unfortunately, people just repeating &quot;I believe there's a bias in X direction&quot; just doesn't help us resolve anything except give us the opportunity to reassure folks that we don't have an edition-bias when moderating. Which is an approach which is clearly not working.&nbsp;It could be that folks on both sides of the coin are experiencing exactly the same thing in opposite directions, and so everyone sees EN World as being anti-them. The only answer might be for EN World to stop trying to accomodate everyone and plant a flag firmly one way or the other, ensuring a more harmonious membership more in tune with each other.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Morrus, post: 4841128, member: 1"] Turst me, it's there and far worse. Anti-4e sentiment, when it occurs, is much more vitriolic than anti-3E sentiment. Believe me, we have to moderate it! I myself percieve an anti-4E bias, with 4E continually refered to as a video game, compared unfavourably to WOW, described as limited and gamist and as nothing more than a tabletop skirmish/war game, as so forth. It's all a matter of perception (in my case, because those are the ones which end up in the moderator queue most often, highlighting a very strong anti-4E sentiment). And that's fine; I'm not trying to persuade you that you should prefer EN World to your chosen sites. I'm merely suggesting that it's possible that you may be more sensitive to one particular side of the issue. As a side-note to everyone, it's easy to say "EN World seems X to me"; but do you have any actual constructive suggestions on how to address the problems from a moderation front? Preferably suggestions that don't stem from the false premise that the mods treat anyone differently depending on their edition preference rather than their demeanour because, that premise being untrue, it's not really a suggestion we can work with. We're totally open to practical suggestions (doesn't mean we'll adopt them, but if you've thought of some great idea that we haven't, we'll never know about it unless you tell us!) Unfortunately, people just repeating "I believe there's a bias in X direction" just doesn't help us resolve anything except give us the opportunity to reassure folks that we don't have an edition-bias when moderating. Which is an approach which is clearly not working. It could be that folks on both sides of the coin are experiencing exactly the same thing in opposite directions, and so [I]everyone[/I] sees EN World as being anti-them. The only answer might be for EN World to stop trying to accomodate everyone and plant a flag firmly one way or the other, ensuring a more harmonious membership more in tune with each other. [/QUOTE]

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