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<blockquote data-quote="Scribbler" data-source="post: 3816086" data-attributes="member: 54528">I do understand, but I'd like to try to point out a few things.Torgga can make temporary &quot;magic items&quot; out of nothing, but those items are pretty much the entirety of her class features.She has poor BAB, medium armor (which is something), simple weapons, d6 HD, and 2 skill points.&nbsp; Then she has barely any class abilities that don't relate to how her soulmelds work: Aura of good (which is a weakness if anything; it doesn't do anything), detect evil, incarnum radiance (which is probably her only useful non-soulmeld ability, and it's not too strong), and turning into an outsider if she reaches level 20.She does have two good saves.And there's one thing I think you may have missed:&nbsp; Soulmelds have to be shaped in advance, like preparing spells.&nbsp; Torgga has the ability to swap one of her soulmelds as a class ability, but other than that she's stuck with her choices all day.&nbsp; And she can't bind the one she swaps in, which reduces the usefulness.That said, I do understand you not wanting to learn a new system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scribbler, post: 3816086, member: 54528"] I do understand, but I'd like to try to point out a few things. Torgga can make temporary "magic items" out of nothing, but those items are pretty much the entirety of her class features. She has poor BAB, medium armor (which is something), simple weapons, d6 HD, and 2 skill points. Then she has barely any class abilities that don't relate to how her soulmelds work: Aura of good (which is a weakness if anything; it doesn't do anything), [i]detect evil[/i], incarnum radiance (which is probably her only useful non-soulmeld ability, and it's not too strong), and turning into an outsider if she reaches level 20. She does have two good saves. And there's one thing I think you may have missed: Soulmelds have to be shaped in advance, like preparing spells. Torgga has the ability to swap one of her soulmelds as a class ability, but other than that she's stuck with her choices all day. And she can't bind the one she swaps in, which reduces the usefulness. That said, I do understand you not wanting to learn a new system. [/QUOTE]

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