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<blockquote data-quote="mkill" data-source="post: 5317513" data-attributes="member: 55985">Hi Thac0, welcome to the boards and welcome back to the game.However, I have one objection: It's absolutely ridiculous to claim that there was some innocent period of gaming where munchkinism, rules lawyering, and system mastery did not exist.I remember that 1996, definitely previous to 3rd edition, I briefly played in a 2nd ed AD&amp;D group where...* The dice rolling method made sure you had at least one stat in the range of 19-25* If not, a retired high-level Wizard PC of one player would pop in and use Wish spells to bring your stats up to &quot;acceptable&quot; levels* Each PC was at least Fighter/Wizard or equivalent. Additional classes were added with Wish spells on demand.* The PCs owned a castle, with purple walls because one of the Wizards was bored one day (another Wish spell... you guessed it)...It's too long ago to remember more details, and I got bored and left anyway. Their playstyle was mainly soap opera of their demigod PCs with a bit of dungeoneering in between.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mkill, post: 5317513, member: 55985"] Hi Thac0, welcome to the boards and welcome back to the game. However, I have one objection: It's absolutely ridiculous to claim that there was some innocent period of gaming where munchkinism, rules lawyering, and system mastery did not exist. I remember that 1996, definitely previous to 3rd edition, I briefly played in a 2nd ed AD&D group where... * The dice rolling method made sure you had at least one stat in the range of 19-25 * If not, a retired high-level Wizard PC of one player would pop in and use Wish spells to bring your stats up to "acceptable" levels * Each PC was at least Fighter/Wizard or equivalent. Additional classes were added with Wish spells on demand. * The PCs owned a castle, with purple walls because one of the Wizards was bored one day (another Wish spell... you guessed it) ... It's too long ago to remember more details, and I got bored and left anyway. Their playstyle was mainly soap opera of their demigod PCs with a bit of dungeoneering in between. [/QUOTE]

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