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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 521096" data-attributes="member: 8158">Other than including a class bonus (which allows characters to get away with wearing little or no armor), they seem essentially the same. Possibly, but I tend to doubt it. If anything, with class-based defense bonuses and a generally lower BAP for most characters (even warrior archetypes like soldiers and gunslingers use the BAP of clerics/rogues, not fighters) , D2M seems designed&nbsp; to alow for higher defenses than D&amp;D characters possess. It makes sense, since hit points are fewer and healing is harder to come by, characters need a higher rate of misses to survive. Well, you've got a point there, but they could still just have&nbsp; said &quot;characters get an extra move or attack action each round&quot;, which would've been a lot simpler than what they came up with instead. Also notice that they didn't seem have to compromise the way surprise rounds work, despite the lack of the term &quot;partial action&quot;.Yes, I was thinking about that myself. It is possible that they're simply trying to keep Defenses within a certain range--high, but not too high--since D2M characters are less likely to encounter titanic opponents that can consistently roll a totall of 38 or so on their attacks.Hey, it's not like the demand to tweak these spells isn't there. But OTOH, I suppose they don't want to go nerf-crazy with the revised books.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felon, post: 521096, member: 8158"] Other than including a class bonus (which allows characters to get away with wearing little or no armor), they seem essentially the same. Possibly, but I tend to doubt it. If anything, with class-based defense bonuses and a generally lower BAP for most characters (even warrior archetypes like soldiers and gunslingers use the BAP of clerics/rogues, not fighters) , D2M seems designed to alow for higher defenses than D&D characters possess. It makes sense, since hit points are fewer and healing is harder to come by, characters need a higher rate of misses to survive. Well, you've got a point there, but they could still just have said "characters get an extra move or attack action each round", which would've been a lot simpler than what they came up with instead. Also notice that they didn't seem have to compromise the way surprise rounds work, despite the lack of the term "partial action". Yes, I was thinking about that myself. It is possible that they're simply trying to keep Defenses within a certain range--high, but not too high--since D2M characters are less likely to encounter titanic opponents that can consistently roll a totall of 38 or so on their attacks. Hey, it's not like the demand to tweak these spells isn't there. But OTOH, I suppose they don't want to go nerf-crazy with the revised books. [/QUOTE]

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